I understand why some people have use for the 3.5 mm jack, what I don’t understand is why in the world you would ever let that be the one thing that stops you from choosing an otherwise great phone.
You are artificially limiting your choice to an extreme degree over a feature that only a microscopic minority of people care about, and one that you can easily get over by either using a dongle or usb-c headphones.
The only thing you can’t do is charge the device while using said headphones (unless they have wireless charging but let’s assume they don’t), but even then phones charge so fast to 50% these days that I never found this to be an actual problem. Unless you’re listening to music non-stop for like 10 hours straight, but that seems unlikely.
It just feels so absurd to me that people hammer on and on about how this is an insurmountable deal breaker. I happily use my wired IEMs with my Pixel phone every day and never once have I felt like I’m losing out on anything.
I guess you do you. But it just sounds like you’re yelling at clouds to me when you could just have gotten over this by now. I’ve been using wired headphones with my usb-c port for years with no problem (phone about to hit 4 years, same dongle I’ve had for like 6 years, daily listening).
I cannot imagine hampering my phone choices to this degree (basically excluding like 90% of phones) just for a statement that will make no difference since the majority of people don’t even use wired headphones (so I’m a minority there since I do use wired, I’ve just learned that using a dongle is totally fine).
I cannot imagine hampering my phone choices to this
I doubt your lack of imagination is important enough to affect our decision making paradigms, but thanks anyway. I’m personally sick of being told that comprises like this are courageous, and that I should want something I know I do not.
I don’t really care if you buy a phone or not, I was just trying to understand how it makes logical sense to completely destroy your phone choices over something that has many easy solutions. If I made the headphone jack my hardline I could never buy a phone with anything I want.
To me it’s like saying you’re walking down a road, and there’s a boulder blocking it, so instead of walking around the boulder you yell at the sky hoping some great power will remove it.
By all means speak with your wallet or what have you, it just really seems like most people have moved past this and learned to use the multiple existing solution, and it’s also very unlikely phone manufacturers will bring back this port.
using a cumbersome dongle introduces a single point of failure for a port which is required to stay us able for your phone to function
using a dongle introduces a single point of failure for your ability to listen to things, so you’d better hope you only have one pair of headphones, or that you never misplace tiny wires.
using a dongle is an additional cost to purchasing the phone
it’s a matter of principle, as it is a symptom of the continuing enshittification of all modern life.
using wireless headphones depletes two batteries at once.
Sure, don’t like a 3.5mm jack, despite the backwards compatibility with older headphones? Fine, but there is no good reason I can think of for there not to just be a second USB port down there. Additional data ports are good, and allow the device to be used for even more flexible, niche purposes, beyond being a redundancy against a single point of failure.
Saying “not only should you have to buy a peripheral, but you should plan to have to replace the port every once in a while, just so you can have basic functionality” is just clearly not an optimal solution. As someone who has seen how >80% of the dongles you buy just fail to function, constantly destroy the ports they’re plugged into, and sometimes just physically self-destruct when you stare at them from the wrong angle like some collapsing wave-function, I think I’ll keep arguing for the added flexibility, redundancy and ease of use without additional peripherals which a second port would provide, with virtually no downside.
I understand why some people have use for the 3.5 mm jack, what I don’t understand is why in the world you would ever let that be the one thing that stops you from choosing an otherwise great phone.
You are artificially limiting your choice to an extreme degree over a feature that only a microscopic minority of people care about, and one that you can easily get over by either using a dongle or usb-c headphones.
The only thing you can’t do is charge the device while using said headphones (unless they have wireless charging but let’s assume they don’t), but even then phones charge so fast to 50% these days that I never found this to be an actual problem. Unless you’re listening to music non-stop for like 10 hours straight, but that seems unlikely.
It just feels so absurd to me that people hammer on and on about how this is an insurmountable deal breaker. I happily use my wired IEMs with my Pixel phone every day and never once have I felt like I’m losing out on anything.
To me, not buying a phone without a 3.5mm is the way I get my voice heard. I am voting with my wallet against taking away features.
I do not care that I am a minority, and that most people are happy to use Bluetooth.
I have very good headphones and I do not want to think about charging them and I do not want to fiddle with dongles that I have to pay for either.
No 3.5, no buy. Period.
I guess you do you. But it just sounds like you’re yelling at clouds to me when you could just have gotten over this by now. I’ve been using wired headphones with my usb-c port for years with no problem (phone about to hit 4 years, same dongle I’ve had for like 6 years, daily listening).
I cannot imagine hampering my phone choices to this degree (basically excluding like 90% of phones) just for a statement that will make no difference since the majority of people don’t even use wired headphones (so I’m a minority there since I do use wired, I’ve just learned that using a dongle is totally fine).
I doubt your lack of imagination is important enough to affect our decision making paradigms, but thanks anyway. I’m personally sick of being told that comprises like this are courageous, and that I should want something I know I do not.
No 3.5, no buy.
I don’t really care if you buy a phone or not, I was just trying to understand how it makes logical sense to completely destroy your phone choices over something that has many easy solutions. If I made the headphone jack my hardline I could never buy a phone with anything I want.
To me it’s like saying you’re walking down a road, and there’s a boulder blocking it, so instead of walking around the boulder you yell at the sky hoping some great power will remove it.
By all means speak with your wallet or what have you, it just really seems like most people have moved past this and learned to use the multiple existing solution, and it’s also very unlikely phone manufacturers will bring back this port.
Bluetooth still can’t use HiFi audio either.
fair point, but…just replace the USB port? it’s repairable for a reason…
Saying “not only should you have to buy a peripheral, but you should plan to have to replace the port every once in a while, just so you can have basic functionality” is just clearly not an optimal solution. As someone who has seen how >80% of the dongles you buy just fail to function, constantly destroy the ports they’re plugged into, and sometimes just physically self-destruct when you stare at them from the wrong angle like some collapsing wave-function, I think I’ll keep arguing for the added flexibility, redundancy and ease of use without additional peripherals which a second port would provide, with virtually no downside.