• OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml
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    I’m not being funny but it can be both.

    Square root is an operator that maps a number to the positive number that when squared returns the original number, but there is also a square root symbol.

    Similarly, % can be an operator that maps a number x to x/100, but there’s also a percent symbol.

    It just depends if you’re talking about functions or fonts.

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      Let’s not forget that it’s also the symbol for modulo operation. So many opportunities for ambiguity!

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          At first glance I thought it was a joke about how programmers use modulo as an operator, while mathematicians use it as a relations thing. I never really understood the way the mathematicians use it tbh

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      The difference between you and the people this meme is about is you understand that both space or no space are fine.

      For more context, I was trained to use a space between a number and its unit (e.g. 2 mol, 3 g, 1 M) for scientific writing. This includes the % sign when it follows a number (i.e. 100 %). So percent yields would be reported as 78 % instead of 78%. On the flip side, units that contain the % sign would not use a space. For example, mol% and wt% would not use a space to separate the % sign from the rest of the unit (i.e. 2 mol%).

      Since I was taught this from the very beginning of university, I never really questioned where the convention came from. Now, I work for a PI who does not use the space for %. Every time I write something (presentations, manuscripts, etc.), they clarify that % is a mathematical operator so there is no space. After a search to defend my position, I found the SI brochure from the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures that clearly states the use of a space.

      Recently in group meeting, while talking about something kind of related to units, they said that I believe there should be a space for %. I quickly clarified (and showed the SI brochure as evidence) that I do not “believe” there should be a space; this isn’t something I have created in my mind. Finally, they said that since it is their lab any manuscripts must follow their convention. Now when I write, I write my way and change it when I self edit before sending it to my PI.

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        The “it’s my lab, so you follow my conventions” for a thing a silly as the space before % (and after you’ve used a rightful source to stand your point) is a very dumb power move IMO.

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        I was taught the same thing at uni (chemistry) but almost all journals in my field of work (toxicology) use no space.

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      Square root is an operator that maps a number to the positive number that when squared returns the original number

      Nah, dog. You’re arbitrarily ignoring negatives. The square root of 4 is ±2.

      Nah, dog. I’m wrong

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        I assume you’re nerd baiting* with that, but it’s infuriating how many math teachers actually teach that.

        It’s not that complicated. x² = n isn’t the same thing as x = √2 because then square rooting isn’t a function, which is asinine. (Similarly to why 0! isn’t defined to be 0, because otherwise it’s a stupid notation that would need a piecewise function definition for just about every single application of the factorial function.)

        *link to xkcd: Duty Calls

        Edit: my phone autocorrected “isn’t” to “is”, lol.

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          x² = n isn’t the same thing as x = √2

          I guess that’s what I was thinking. I don’t think I can even blame my math teachers.