I unfortunately HAD to get a stupid thermostat with wifi. can’t even get one without it now. I’d much rather have it not hooked up but I may be forced to.

How can I put this on a VLAN and block all it’s telemetry? It’s a honeywell. Can i put it on my VLAN and then use mullvad DNS to block all the shit?

“They” are saying it has to be on wifi so it can see the outdoor temp to talk to the heat pump. Bullshit i say.

  • yaroto98@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    24 hours ago

    My Honeywell T10 is connected to my wifi, I use the Homekit on it with HA. But I setup a firewall rule in my router to block all outgoing internet traffic to a group if IPs. Then I added my smart vacuum, thermostat, printers, doorbell, etc to the group. It’s a solid setup.

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
    6·
    3 days ago

    what if you just dont connect it to any wifi, ever? i also highly doubt you ‘cant even get one now [without wifi]’

    an analog thermostat is 20$ at home depot

    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      yeah but the installers won’t install those and void your warranty. Fucking bullshit nowadays man.

      Anyway, i’m not going to connect it.

  • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    Don’t bother hooking it up to wifi, just let it run. My parents got one of those with their heat pump install and I never connected it to wifi. The heat pump itself has an exterior temp and humidity sensor it uses to manage defrost cycles. “They” are selling you bunk shit.

    Also mechanical or basic programmable thermostats are still very available and whoever told you “you don’t have a choice” is lying to your face. If you paid your own money for it, return it.

    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      I figured ! Thanks,

      Yeah, I don’t mind its other features but i don’t need it phoning home telling corporations my home air quality and temps. If I could block all telemetry and only talk to it with my device it may be cool. But nah.

      • litchralee@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        My Ecobee thermostat – which is reasonably usable without an Internet connection – has one horrific flaw: the built in clock seems to drift by a minute per month, leading to my programmed schedules shifting ever so slightly.

        I could have it connected to a dedicated IoT SSID and live in a VLAN jail so that it only has access to my NTP server… or I just change the time manually every six months as part of DST.

        • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          I had this problem and I just re-created the schedules in home assistant, so the schedule is just controlled by my server now.

        • hesh@quokk.auEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          I have an Ecobee also and have blocked its access to everything except the ntp time server using pihole

  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    Honeywell T6 Pro - Z-wave. No cloud or wifi, does have humidity sensor and fan circulation mode. Ebay has plenty. Upgraded from a wifi thermostat and have been really pleased. Worth the money.

    You do need something like Home Assistant though.

    My old wifi thermostat was locked down by Honeywell and useless except for manual control unless allowed Internet access.

    • paper_moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      2 days ago

      you do need something like Home Assistant though

      Wait… So if the box running home assistant goes down… Can you still change your heat?

      • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Yes, it has full manual control from the touch screen. There’s also a version that’s a bit cheaper with some dedicated blister buttons.

        Connect it to Home Assistant and you can do damn near anything with it. Wireguard allows remote access so we can monitor the temperature and control the heat & AC from anywhere.

      • JoeyHarrington@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        If it has local control like a normal thermostat you can control it without a hub like home assistant

  • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 days ago

    Yeah I have a dedicated IoT wifi network for those types of random devices. They are isolated, so any device on that particular network cant talk to any other device. If they must communicate with each other, I will set up firewall rules between the two, but wont let them access anything else on the network.

    If they need internet access, you can rate limit their speed to like 1kb/s and set their dns resolver to a pi hole to keep tabs on where they are phoning home to and block accordingly.

    If you can configure that devices TTL, set it low to like 4 or 5, and increase by 1 if its having trouble reaching the necessary destination. Also, block access to outside countries, as you probably aren’t needing remote management from the foreign motherlands.