When will it be enough that people actively start opening fire on ICE the second they pull out to their street? This is getting ridiculous. Not even white women are safe.
The problem is that’s when he “gets” to declare Marshall Law and take over the government and the military.
So far, judges have denied him access to military even though he keeps screaming about terrorists and buildings burning, when really there are people in frog costumes and people with whistles.
Hitler took control of German government and military the second a building caught fire. This is likely what he’s trying to make happen.
Elections happen this year that could generate some congressional power challenges against his orders with more urgency. How much hope do I have that elections even happen? Will several red states change last minute election rules and post office cancel ballot deliveries or straight up replace federal electors again? Will he make up a fake excuse to end elections or arrest opponents? Who knows. Once he steals power instead of having it with legitimacy is when gloves have to come off. In the meantime it has to stay peaceful. We dug this hole ourselves at this point.
Trump said, on camera, “I was president, then I wasn’t. Then they rigged the election and now I’m president again.” That’s slightly paraphrased because I don’t care to listen to him talk again if I can avoid it, but the wording wasn’t ambiguous.
He admitted to it a few more times, but that was the most blatant one.
He vomits just enough word salad to give his supporters an excuse to pretend he didn’t say what he said, but he’s been remarkably forthright about nearly every heinous thing he’s done or is planning to do, from “grab 'em by the pussy” to “we need Greenland for national security.” And even when he doesn’t just publicly confess outright, you can tell exactly what he did because he falsely accuses others of doing it.
The only thing stopping Trump right now is the courts. Martial law is an endrun around the courts.
Yes, he is breaking laws, but once the court actually steps up and tells him to stop, he does. We unfortunately have a long history of extrajudicial foreign action that the courts just don’t care about, but that’s not the same as deploying military to one’s own country.
Trump can declare war without even telling congress about it. What makes you think he needs something real in order to “declare martial law”? At what point are you going to decide that NOT FIGHTING BACK is actually helping these people trample you?
As mentioned by others in this thread, the courts has repeatedly taken away his access to national guard because he is failing to show evidence of a domestic threat
When will it be enough that people actively start opening fire on ICE the second they pull out to their street? This is getting ridiculous. Not even white women are safe.
The problem is that’s when he “gets” to declare Marshall Law and take over the government and the military.
So far, judges have denied him access to military even though he keeps screaming about terrorists and buildings burning, when really there are people in frog costumes and people with whistles.
Hitler took control of German government and military the second a building caught fire. This is likely what he’s trying to make happen.
Elections happen this year that could generate some congressional power challenges against his orders with more urgency. How much hope do I have that elections even happen? Will several red states change last minute election rules and post office cancel ballot deliveries or straight up replace federal electors again? Will he make up a fake excuse to end elections or arrest opponents? Who knows. Once he steals power instead of having it with legitimacy is when gloves have to come off. In the meantime it has to stay peaceful. We dug this hole ourselves at this point.
He’s already stolen power. He’s admitted multiple times that they rigged the election.
Huh?
Trump said, on camera, “I was president, then I wasn’t. Then they rigged the election and now I’m president again.” That’s slightly paraphrased because I don’t care to listen to him talk again if I can avoid it, but the wording wasn’t ambiguous.
He admitted to it a few more times, but that was the most blatant one.
He meant they rigged it for Biden. He talks like an idiot
I thought he made some references to Musk taking care of the voting machines.
No, he really didn’t.
He vomits just enough word salad to give his supporters an excuse to pretend he didn’t say what he said, but he’s been remarkably forthright about nearly every heinous thing he’s done or is planning to do, from “grab 'em by the pussy” to “we need Greenland for national security.” And even when he doesn’t just publicly confess outright, you can tell exactly what he did because he falsely accuses others of doing it.
Practically speaking, how is that any different from now?
Do you really think this is as bad as it can get?
Of course not. I’m asking what declaring Martial Law would change.
Martial Law would mean the real military rolling into towns, and the loss of recourse in the courts for federal overreach.
Currently we just have ICE, national guard, and police assaulting us, but under martial law there will be things like tanks and drone bombs.
You believe the only thing stopping that is Trump saying “I declare Martial Law”?
He also can’t just kidnap a foreign leader without notifying congress – except he actually just can.
The only thing stopping Trump right now is the courts. Martial law is an endrun around the courts.
Yes, he is breaking laws, but once the court actually steps up and tells him to stop, he does. We unfortunately have a long history of extrajudicial foreign action that the courts just don’t care about, but that’s not the same as deploying military to one’s own country.
Trump can declare war without even telling congress about it. What makes you think he needs something real in order to “declare martial law”? At what point are you going to decide that NOT FIGHTING BACK is actually helping these people trample you?
As mentioned by others in this thread, the courts has repeatedly taken away his access to national guard because he is failing to show evidence of a domestic threat