• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    Well, solar panels are the (a) means of energy production, so in that sense I don’t see where any communist theorists would disagree. But please draw me the line from everyone having solar panels to “revolution” without any other Marxist theory.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      20 hours ago
      1. the people set up local solar collection grids
      2. the state gets mad as the state ultimately represents the interests of the petrochemical industry (the state is almost universally a petrostate)
      3. the state implements a system of taxes and subsidies to reduce the economic efficacy of solar panels
      4. when enough people maintain their solar panels, the state resorts to its usual mechanism for enforcement: violence
      5. the people, confronted with the violence of the state must either submit to the power of the state or respond to the violence of the state with violence of their own

      idk if i succeeded or failed

      • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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        19 hours ago

        I’m not sure what to make of your assertion of the state as universally a petrostate. And you haven’t touched on the means of solar panel production, let alone any other necessities or commodities (just a mention of maintenance).

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      23 hours ago

      What’s not captured by the picture is that these panels are stolen from the mobile police cameras they roll around.

    • Dippy@beehaw.orgOP
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      1 day ago

      Dismantling the oil industry is revolutionary. And it will improve nearly every facet of life across the globe while be a goal that is achievable and happening right now.

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        1 day ago

        Damn, critical support to Shell, Chevron, ExxonMobil, Tesla, Google and Apple then for promoting and sometimes manufacturing home solar solutions. Truly the most revolutionary of companies!

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          1 day ago

          Woah that’s quite the jump. A very strange jump at that. Who said I liked any of those companies?

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            Look, I get that you’re quite young and probably still trying to understand how the world works, but your revolutionary idea is what these companies have more or less been pushing themselves. I could make a few walls of text for sure on why this is dumb, but just look up what greenwashing is, fossil fuel industry campaigns of advertising solar power and their solutions, and how the concept of individual action to bring about change is just garbage that has been actively spouted and weaponized by corporations (e.g. the anti-pollution craze where to solve climate change and widespread pollution crisis was to just “recycle more” and “drive cars less” while they kept polluting at industrial scale).

            • Dippy@beehaw.orgOP
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              23 hours ago

              Oh… your seriously like that? Um, good luck out there. Hope things get better for you! In the mean time, im going to be pushing for developing countries to skip over the step where the are ever dependant upon fossil fuels to improve their standard of living. That way, oil super powers lose incredible amounts of influence over the globe, especially the most vulnerable peoples. (Side note: also reducing global temperature by transforming the sunlight into energy instead of heat) if hope is of interest to you, come along, id love to have you journey with me.

  • jode@pawb.social
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    1 day ago

    And I’ll tell you what used solar panels and inverters are cheap as shit on marketplace. Batteries are getting there too.