“Fighting” to make things work might be the wrong word, but it has at times been a lot of work
I think that’s what the other commenter was kind of getting at. Fighting is something forceful and unhinged, putting in effort is the more appropriate way to put it in my eyes.
Fighting is something forceful and unhinged, putting in effort is the more appropriate way to put it in my eyes.
If cancer is taking the life of your mate are you just “putting in effort” against cancer? This a part of what can happen in a relationship. “Fighting for the relationship” doesn’t necessarily mean against each other. It can mean against society, against nature even.
You are fighting, because there is a force (cancer) which is actively working against you. There should not usually be any forces actively working against your relationship though, so I wouldn’t call it a fight.
You are fighting, because there is a force (cancer) which is actively working against you.
We’re agreeing. Fighting is an appropriate word choice here against cancer.
There should not usually be any forces actively working against your relationship though, so I wouldn’t call it a fight.
There shouldn’t be, but humanity seems to invent them frequently. There can be external forces working against the relationship. It could be something as benign as excessive responsibilities at work robbing time from the relationship, financial challenges for basic needs (food, clothing, housing), or perhaps difficulties with child care (especially for children with special needs). For some it could be society pressures such as your community disapproving of your relationship because of differences in race or religion. It could even be state sponsored forces such as laws against homosexuality or trans people.
Yes, im not forcing my mate to fight because stress and anger makes you less healthy. Fighting is some american bs they think everything is better when you fight, it’s not actual helpful usage of the word fight.
Cancer is trying to kill you. The opposite of “fighting” is “surrender”. Its useful in that context for a fight against cancer. Not considering that as a threat that needs to be fought seems fatalistic. To each their own.
It’s not, it’s your own body’s cells that “forgot” their not supposed to grow too much. They’re just trying to grow. But idk a lot of humans seem to need some “enemy” to fight. You just don’t have to look at the world that way. It’s a very americanized way of looking at things.
It’s not, it’s your own body’s cells that “forgot” their not supposed to grow too much. They’re just trying to grow. They’re just trying to grow. But idk a lot of humans seem to need some “enemy” to fight. You just don’t have to look at the world that way.
If that helps you to look at it that way as you watch your loved one grow weaker and wither away, more power to you. I don’t know if you’ve had a loved one that has gone through this, but I really do believe its a fight because at the lowest point it is much easier to give up and die than endure some of the horrible pain that comes along with this kind of…for you I’ll call it a “condition” instead of a fight. The person with cancer has to choose to continue to struggle against their own body trying to kill itself, and its not a choice like deciding what color shirt to wear that day. The gravity and impact of the decisions, and the endurance of the pain are much closer to a “fight” than any other word I can think of.
Again, though, if it helps you to see it as some calm or nature process that isn’t a fight, continue to do that for yourself.
I’m sorry for your father’s passing. With that, I’m surprised that you chose to step into a conversation about cancer if the topic is still so sensitive to you.
I agree. To me “fighting” implies that there are forces trying to end the relationship, against which you must fight.
But that just isn’t the case in good relationships IMO. Yes some amount of effort is often required, and not every day can feel like the honeymoon phase, but the relationship has never felt adversarial.
I don’t doubt that for some relationships, “fight” is probably an accurate phrase. But I don’t think it should be seen as normal or expected of every relationship.
I think that’s what the other commenter was kind of getting at. Fighting is something forceful and unhinged, putting in effort is the more appropriate way to put it in my eyes.
If cancer is taking the life of your mate are you just “putting in effort” against cancer? This a part of what can happen in a relationship. “Fighting for the relationship” doesn’t necessarily mean against each other. It can mean against society, against nature even.
You are fighting, because there is a force (cancer) which is actively working against you. There should not usually be any forces actively working against your relationship though, so I wouldn’t call it a fight.
We’re agreeing. Fighting is an appropriate word choice here against cancer.
There shouldn’t be, but humanity seems to invent them frequently. There can be external forces working against the relationship. It could be something as benign as excessive responsibilities at work robbing time from the relationship, financial challenges for basic needs (food, clothing, housing), or perhaps difficulties with child care (especially for children with special needs). For some it could be society pressures such as your community disapproving of your relationship because of differences in race or religion. It could even be state sponsored forces such as laws against homosexuality or trans people.
Yes, im not forcing my mate to fight because stress and anger makes you less healthy. Fighting is some american bs they think everything is better when you fight, it’s not actual helpful usage of the word fight.
Cancer is trying to kill you. The opposite of “fighting” is “surrender”. Its useful in that context for a fight against cancer. Not considering that as a threat that needs to be fought seems fatalistic. To each their own.
It’s not, it’s your own body’s cells that “forgot” their not supposed to grow too much. They’re just trying to grow. But idk a lot of humans seem to need some “enemy” to fight. You just don’t have to look at the world that way. It’s a very americanized way of looking at things.
It’s cell banditry.
If that helps you to look at it that way as you watch your loved one grow weaker and wither away, more power to you. I don’t know if you’ve had a loved one that has gone through this, but I really do believe its a fight because at the lowest point it is much easier to give up and die than endure some of the horrible pain that comes along with this kind of…for you I’ll call it a “condition” instead of a fight. The person with cancer has to choose to continue to struggle against their own body trying to kill itself, and its not a choice like deciding what color shirt to wear that day. The gravity and impact of the decisions, and the endurance of the pain are much closer to a “fight” than any other word I can think of.
Again, though, if it helps you to see it as some calm or nature process that isn’t a fight, continue to do that for yourself.
Yes i watched my father die from cancer over two years thanks for reminding me
I’m sorry for your father’s passing. With that, I’m surprised that you chose to step into a conversation about cancer if the topic is still so sensitive to you.
Lol idk what point you’re trying to make anymore, you keep attributing to me things that i never said and aren’t true.
I agree. To me “fighting” implies that there are forces trying to end the relationship, against which you must fight.
But that just isn’t the case in good relationships IMO. Yes some amount of effort is often required, and not every day can feel like the honeymoon phase, but the relationship has never felt adversarial.
I don’t doubt that for some relationships, “fight” is probably an accurate phrase. But I don’t think it should be seen as normal or expected of every relationship.