One of the most outspoken members of the US Republican Party over the Epstein files has told the BBC he is “not satisfied until the survivors are satisfied”.
Thomas Massie, a congressman representing Kentucky, told the Newsnight programme: “Men need to be perp-walked in handcuffs to the jail, and until we see that here in this country… we don’t have a system of justice that’s working.”
Massie has criticised the Department of Justice (DOJ) for the number of files that it redacted or withheld after it complied with a law - co-written by Massie - to release all its material.
DOJ officials have said they have released all of their files other than certain items permitted to be exempt.
In contrast with the situation in the US, the UK was “the only place that we’re seeing arrests”, Massie said. He said it was “ironic that [the US] thought we could have more justice by becoming independent from Britain”.
Human rights are for everyone. Not just for people that “deserve” them. You cannot ride yourself or others of them.
If their actions offend you and the public, prosecute and more importantly prevent them diligently.
My dude, there are like 15 people in the world that if you just straight up slaughtered, the world would be better for it. Don’t pretend like that isn’t the case.
Doesn’t make it right.
Most certainly does. Pull your head out of the Utopian BS.
Yes it does. These men have made a mockery of the justice system. They don’t deserve to be treated humanely.
I disagree it does. These men and their predecessors corrupted the justice system from the very beginning of the idea of justice and its creation. Calling for greater violence and humiliation begets more violence and humiliation.
Criminal rights are human rights.
I would love to be Player 2 any day of the week because I feel powerless using other avenues, still wrong. It would feel SO right though.
Thus the paradox of tolerance.
This is where humanitarianism begins to fail and utilitarianism picks up the slack.
I’m a big fan of the paradox of tolerance.
Why I feel this treatment would be wrong in the pursuit of justice is because I looked at what justice is suppose to be a while back and why certain sentences are applied to certain crimes. I read that if the death penalty or inhumane treatment is on the menu for the criminal, they will be more likely to kill the victim since it’s still the same or some kind of maximum punishment whether they do or not and a dead person is likely to identify you. I would imagine that’s not true for every case because I imagine not everyone wants to kill someone but I like the phrase a sane mind can’t comprehend an insane one, so I don’t know. We are all animals and capable of killing I think, unless you’re like a baby or limited for whatever reason. (I guess we could do years of torture to deter the violent and sexual stuff? I really don’t know)
Neither does denial and tolerance of murder and rape.
Yes.
So what, no prisons? Cause pretty sure being locked up rids a person of their human right.
But temporarily and predictably while somewhat preserving dignity. But yes. Incarceration is highly problematic but can be needed at times.