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chemicals r scarry
edcation is laking
This is true, was educated, am lake
…are non-US peanut butters less viscous?
Non-US peanut butters typically have only one ingredient (peanuts) and therefore you get peanut oil separating out that needs to be stirred in. American peanut butter (at least the ‘popular’ brands) tend to be so full of preservatives and shit that they hold their state.
Here’s the full list of ingredients for Jif:
Made from Roasted Peanuts and Sugar, Contains 2% or Less of: Molasses, Fully Hydrogenated Vegetable Oils (Rapeseed and Soybean), Mono and Diglycerides, Salt.
https://www.foodsco.net/p/jif-creamy-peanut-butter/0005150024191
It’s not just peanuts but it’s not really “preservatives and shit” either.
The vegetable oils are saturated fats, which will mix with the peanut oil, but solidify at room temperature. That and the sugar are doing the leg work on keeping the peanut butter from separating. So yeah, saturated fats and sugar are unhealthy additives specifically for preserving the peanut butter. What exactly is your definition of a preservative?
Preservative refers to a substance that inhibits spoilage, decay, discoloration or other drops in quality.
It’s one way to increase shelf life.A stabilizer isn’t a preservative because oil separation doesn’t impact quality, shelf life or anything like that.
Peanuts already have saturated fat, the vegetable oils are better on that than the peanuts.
Incorrect, hydrogenated is a synthesis artificial process that chemically alters them and turns them into dryer texture but it’s less healthy and more artificial. I avoid it.
That’s a bubbler leaking hydrogen while submerged in the oil, and it’s mostly a fancy word for margarine.
No salt? XD
There is definitely salt in my aldi peanut butter, and a lot of sugar, I can tell just by taste without checking the label.
You can get some brands which have a pinch of salt added, but in my experience, most brands don’t…
Of the pure pbs, I’ve found several. I think Richards and Kroger do.
The problem is that much of what Spain sells as peanut butter is built around the European expectation:
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simpler ingredients
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fewer sweeteners
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“natural” separation accepted as normal
The EU keeps strict maximum levels for contaminants in foods, including aflatoxins. Commission Regulation (EU) 2023/915 sets tight contaminant limits, and the EU’s own 2023 summary notes that maximum levels are set at strict levels considered reasonably achievable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin
Aflatoxins are various poisonous carcinogens and mutagens that are produced by certain molds, especially Aspergillus species such as Aspergillus flavus and Aspergillus parasiticus.
Why do you call it “natural” separation lol
Gravity is a natural process. The oil is less dense.
And why “”
Lol. I reas the article, and:
SKIPPY Smooth 1.13 kg is listed at €19.50
😳 Who the hell buys more than one kg of peanut butter??
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When I left the US this was a BIG surprise for me
I 100% don’t care, my American junk peanut butter is delicious. That health food shit you have to stir is oily, greasy, often has weird dry spots and grit, no thanks. I’ll keep enjoying my smooth, sweet and satisfying American junk peanut butter with out shame
I tried “natural” peanut butter a couple years ago and never looked back. The no-stir stuff I grew up on was suddenly far too sweet. Yeah, you have to stir it a bit, and the first time sucks. But it’s worth it for me.
It’s not “American brand” peanut butter. It’s just bad peanut butter.
I buy an American-made peanut butter that I have to stir.
I don’t get it.
Many US peanut butter manufacturers add emulsifiers and other chemicals into their peanut butter so that it remains homogenous.
The realization is that the person would be eating those emulsifiers, and some people have claimed that they have negative health consequences, which is probable, although I don’t know if they do or not.
which is probable
Why would this be probable? Evidence?
Many things are probable.
I chose that word because it is possible that there could be health issues caused by the emulsifiers in american peanut butters, but also I don’t know if it is.
Probable is an apt word when something isn’t necessarily impossible.
You will also note that I didn’t use the word likely, because I can’t say whether it is likely or not.
“Plausible” is what you wanted. “Probable” means “likely”.
I meant it in the secondary definition of the term, which is “establishing a probability”.
Plausible is also a good word for it, but probable is still apt
This is the first time I’ve heard that definition. It seems like a niche definition that can easily result in misunderstandings
You aren’t establishing a probability.
Or, by saying “probably” you are establishing a probability of > 0.5… with absolutely no proof.
Emulsifiers gonna emulsify 🚬
How to inhale peanut butter to undo ~10yrs of smoking?
I was curious.
Apologies if you’re actually quitting. My jocularity is quite weird.
This made me kinda queasy looking at it lmao.
I actually quit everything last year. I still get some cravings every now and then, but throw that onto the pile of consequences from my youth. Not the worst withdrawals I’ve experienced, but definitely was the hardest to fully quit.
Triple Flavor
BreathWTF?
The FDA lets plenty of questionable stuff in food, so I wouldnt be surprised if theres questionable emulsifiers that are used sometimes. My main issue with those peanut butters is that the texture is like eating old toothpaste and the flavor is like your aunt’s perfume at the funeral of the peanut :(
Not sojalecithin?
Peanut butter is mostly just hydrogenated oils, but emulsifiers in things like Ice Cream are horrible for you, added to prevent separation of ingredients. Some destroy the blood brain barrier, damage gut flora health, and a bunch of other bad stuff.
Citation needed. Most of the emulsifiers in ice cream are simply different sticky carbohydrates. Usually beans.
Studies show that there might be an impact that contributes to risk factors leading to an increased risk of certain metabolic disorders. This means that we need more study, not that there’s anything that warrants changes in behavior or saying anything definitive.
Article in the guardian, and elsewhere a couple years ago. It’s not a secret, the problems with some of these emulsifiers. In fact it’s common knowledge to those of us whose heads are not inside the asses of billionaires which may not include you admittedly. No offense.
An article in the guardian is not a resoundingly strong source, particularly given how news sources like to report health topics.
If you look at any of the reviewed research by academics, it’s pretty clear it’s something they want to look at more, but it’s hardly a definitive “horrible for you” or destroying the blood brain barrier.
In one study they only let mice drink emulsified water, and then gave them a food substance they were allergic to. This resulted in an increase in diarrhea.If you’re going to cite the guardian and “common knowledge” as your source, you might hold off on the “head in ass” accusations.
More of a source than an internet rando, and it’s published in many places, look it up, or don’t.
I did, obviously. Why do you think I was telling you what they said?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9738911/
Here’s the one with the mouse diarrhea.
Local grocery store has a machine where you can grind peanuts into fresh peanut butter on demand for about 10 cents more per ounce than the mass market stuff, and it’s amazing.
Lowes? They are great!
No you’re thinking of drawers of mixed nuts. I think they mean Menards.
That’s why just buying peanuts and a food processor is the way to go and just make the amount of peanut butter you need when you need it.
Fancy stores you can buy peanuts and run them through the machine that turns them into peanut butter.
Or just mix the peanut butter up really well when you first open it before putting it in the fridge. Warm peanut butter mixes really easily, while cold peanut butter takes a long time to separate again.
Emulsifiers? Our Peanut Butter is also too sweet.
I feel a lot of the big mass brand peanut butter is too sweet a lot of the less mainstream and even cheaper “off brand” peanut butter is less sweet at times. Unfortunately, do like my sweeter brands
Try “just peanuts” for a while, once you get used to it, you will find thé industrial stuff tasteless.
These generalizations are bordering on bigotry. There are plenty of “American brands” that are small town home-based businesses. I’m literally bought pickled okra and spicy sweet pickles yesterday at the Farmers market.
They stole the oil?
The pasty emulsified super sweet peanut butter is nasty. I guess I just didnt grow up eating that stuff so I’m not desensitized to it (did have peanut butter a few times, but it was a normal one. Tastes like peanuts and slightly salty). But it tastes like vaguely sweet paste and the texture is horrid. It made me gag the first time I had it because I was like “Oh peanut butter? I like that stuff.”











