• chunes@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Don’t kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it’s going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

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      21 days ago

      For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don’t have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

      Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

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          21 days ago

          governments often buy data instead of obtaining the necessary warrants, because its easier and more effective. if they can’t buy it, they have to do it the harder way, and the harder way can be made even harder with legislation

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            21 days ago

            The us isn’t fond of other countries spying on you either. The state has not relinquished any amount of power or control in my lifetime. Europe caring about privacy is a facade.

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      21 days ago

      It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

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        It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

        That’s only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there’s a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

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      21 days ago

      Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.

      At least it’s better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.

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      21 days ago

      Honestly, I prefer someone else’s untrustworthy.

      I don’t trust China at all, but I trust them over the US, if only because they have no stake in me as a foreigner.

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          21 days ago

          They are all in on renewables. The US want everyone on oil and coal, the US wants the junky to keep and dependency.

          We are the bad guys.

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            20 days ago

            I don’t really see how that is relevant. Or how a country’s energy sources alone can determine whether they are “good” or “bad”.

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                20 days ago

                I don’t think it’s anything more than short-term versus long-term thinking.

                I would not describe either country as “good”, but that has nothing to do with the above statement.

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                  20 days ago

                  The us focusing exclusively on the short term is what I like consider evil, and the stability of a long term-term focus is good.