• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    2 days ago

    Not really, no.

    Supporting or not supporting a fascist apartheid state wrapped in a star of David flag might seem to be about religion on the surface, but in reality, it’s about fascism, war crimes, and disinformation.

    Pretending that Israel is accurately representative of all of Jewdom is an antisemitic trope favored by the likes of Tucker Carlson, Candace Owen, and Nick Fuentes and the number one cause of people across the world going down rabbit holes that lead to the most vile bigotry.

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      15 hours ago

      80-90% of Jews in modern time are Zionists. Zionism is the accurately representative of modern Judaism. Especially religious Judaism where virtually every present day synaguogue is Zionist.

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        15 hours ago

        No. That’s about right for ISRAELI Jews, not Jews worldwide.

        People who happen to be Jewish but don’t live in Hasbara Central AREN’T a monolith or anywhere near it and pretending so is an antisemitic trope.

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            Nope. You’re basing your assessment of WORLDWIDE Jewry on ONE substack post that references ONE poll of AMERICAN Jewry and even THAT lands 7% short of the lower bound of your ass-pull estimate.

            Americans are the second most Hasbara-gaslighted people in the world after Israelis themselves, so assuming that all Jews worldwide are zionist in equal proportion to American Jews is lazy and US-centric at best and antisemitic at worst. Especially based on only one poll that says it’s less than the lower bound of what you claim.

            In case there’s any doubt: I despise the Apartheid colonialist political ideology that is zionism as well as the atrocities committed because of it AND bigotry, which is why I object to non-zionist Jews being lumped in with the Genocide enthusiasts.

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              This article is much more than one American poll. It shows polling and data for Jews worldwide.

              You’re undermining to pro-Palestine movement by calling everything and everyone who opposes Israel antisemitic.

              You didn’t even notice thast the original commenter said the word “religion” and never said the word Jew. To deny that a cult which is committing genocide and mass rape to slaughter a red heifer and bring about a third temply is even a religion and then say it’s antisemitic. What?

              You might need this article instead https://ofpatmos.substack.com/p/fight-jewish-exceptionalism

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                You’re undermining to pro-Palestine movement by calling everything and everyone who opposes Israel antisemitic.

                The comment you wrote this to not only was not “calling everything and everyone who opposes Israel antisemitic” (it says your characterization of Jews might be), but it actually says “I despise the Apartheid colonialist political ideology that is zionism”.

                You are undermining the pro-Palestine movement by equating zionism with jewishness.

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        I’m surprised to have to say this but it seriously sounds like you’re pushing antisemitism here. Supposing you’re right about 90% of global Jewish people being Zionists; waving away 10% of all Jewish people who disagree is incredibly stupid. That’s like 1,500,000 human beings. That’s almost half the population of my home state.

        You’re not an antisemite, are you?

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          You didn’t point out what is antisemitic about my comment at all. Are you saying that 10% is the accurate representation but 90% isn’t? Do you get to decide what accurately represents the majority of Jewish views instead of Jews themselves?

          You’re not an antisemite, are you?

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      “It is my religious belief that we should not kill each other, especially not genocide” or something. Idk.