And yet they have fewer people in prison than the US with four times the population. All these horrible things about China and yet they incarcerate people at a quarter of the rate that the US does. So if China is a fascist police state what do you call a country that imprisons people at four times the rate of China?
No one said the US is doing anything perfectly. What about the incarceration rate in the Netherlands? Individual freedom is difficult and comes at a cost. Chinese citizend simply do not have all the freedoms others in the west have. They are not allowed to demand it wether they want it or not.
Idk about netherlands but you’re trying to single out china versus the west and the largest western country is far less free than china. If you say European, sure, quite frankly I have no clue about Netherlands incarceration, I’ll take your word for it. But if you want to talk about “the west” you have to answer for how your theory applies to the single largest western country.
How do you know this information? You can’t look it up on Wikipedia in China… that’s blocked. Oh, read about it in the associated press? BBC?.. nope. All blocked. Ignorance is bliss it seems.
AP isn’t blocked here. But while in China, I can access anything that is blocked via VPN, like any chinese person. Its common enough a cop or security guy in Tianjin airport helped me install a hk-based esim via alipay that gets around the Great Firewall when I arrived the first time and couldn’t pull up my gmail.
And yet they have fewer people in prison than the US with four times the population. All these horrible things about China and yet they incarcerate people at a quarter of the rate that the US does. So if China is a fascist police state what do you call a country that imprisons people at four times the rate of China?
Also a fascist police state
No one said the US is doing anything perfectly. What about the incarceration rate in the Netherlands? Individual freedom is difficult and comes at a cost. Chinese citizend simply do not have all the freedoms others in the west have. They are not allowed to demand it wether they want it or not.
Idk about netherlands but you’re trying to single out china versus the west and the largest western country is far less free than china. If you say European, sure, quite frankly I have no clue about Netherlands incarceration, I’ll take your word for it. But if you want to talk about “the west” you have to answer for how your theory applies to the single largest western country.
How do you know this information? You can’t look it up on Wikipedia in China… that’s blocked. Oh, read about it in the associated press? BBC?.. nope. All blocked. Ignorance is bliss it seems.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
AP isn’t blocked here. But while in China, I can access anything that is blocked via VPN, like any chinese person. Its common enough a cop or security guy in Tianjin airport helped me install a hk-based esim via alipay that gets around the Great Firewall when I arrived the first time and couldn’t pull up my gmail.
That said it is still a nuisance.