• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    being ok with patronization is not the same as endorsing oppression. that’s the lep you’re making

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      5 months ago

      Context is paramount. In this context, the supplier is the oppressor. If the supplier is not an oppressor, that’s out of scope.

      (edit) btw, endorsing oppression and supporting oppression are not the same thing. I said Doctorow /supports/ oppression with his stance, not that he endorses it. He clearly does not endorse it, but his approach does not do justice to his intent.

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        5 months ago

        btw, endorsing oppression and supporting oppression are not the same thing.

        this is a semantic game

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          5 months ago

          No, that difference between those words is important. My stance is in fact that Doctorow does not endorse oppression but he supports it through his actions and advocacy – unintentionally of course.

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            5 months ago

            Doctorow does not endorse oppression but he supports it through advocacy

            this is so self contradictory no one should take it seriously

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              5 months ago

              Only if you don’t know the nuanced difference between “endorsement” and “supports” will you fail to take it seriously. Endorsement deals with deontology (intent) whereas support is utilitarian in meaning.

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                5 months ago

                youre stretching the definition of “support” to meaninglessness, and playing a semantic game.

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                  5 months ago

                  Not at all. If you feed the oppressor, you support it. It’s a perverse stretch to claim the contrary – and it renders the word support meaningless. You cannot feed an oppressor (or promote someone else feeding an oppressor) and simultaneously claim to not support it. Vegans understand the concept well, and their movement reflects it.

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                    5 months ago

                    anyone who says “Cory doctorow supports oppressors and tells others to do the same” is lying.