• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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      10 days ago

      …are literally to the right of Democrats in the US. They’re just technically not as far right as most Republicans. They occupy that tiny slice of space between the two kinds of conservatives.

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        5 days ago

        *Most libertarians. Many, not most, are leftist. Libertarianism was originally a leftist term synonymous with anarchist socialist that got coopted by the right in the 70s.

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          No, they aren’t. They all believe in free-marker Capitalism. Usually the unregulated, tax-free variety. Just because they also think drugs and abortion should be legal, doesn’t make them “leftists”.

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            You’ve convinced me with all of your evidence, whereas a simple wikipedia search tells you I’m right. Libertarianism was originally a leftist term synonymous with anarchist socialist that got coopted by the right in the 70s.

            Source: I am a former libertarian who no longer calls himself one because I’m a socialist and libertarianism, despite having socialist beginnings, is no longer widely known as something compatible with socialism. I’m just educated enough to know the nuance, whereas some people are not as educated and therefore have a take that is more black/white and narrow-minded. If someone says “I’m a left-libertarian” some people would say that’s an oxymoron because they’re uneducated and know just enough to be confident in their ignorance, and I would actually get what they mean. I would urge them to stop calling themselves a libertarian, but I would get what they mean at least instead of being ignorant.

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      9 days ago

      Either you’re talking of libertarians like me. People just shy anarcho-communist (Or at least far cry of capitalist). Or self proclaimed anti-state lassiez-faire capitalism advocating folks. Which don’t even fit the critieria for centre-left or centre even.

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            5 days ago

            Thanks for the selective reporting.

            If you actually took the time to explore the results openly, you’d find significant libertarian critique of capitalism. Libertarian socialism, for example, is explicitly anti-capitalism; obviously though, as it encroaches on people’s freedoms with wage labour, capital ownership, corporate bailouts, limited liability, etc. All the things that take something from people without their control or consent.

            If you’re seeing a lot of Dave Smith, that could be your algorithm tuned in favour of that content. While he is libertarian with drugs, foreign policy, privacy, etc. he only represents the utmost right flank of libertarianism that expresses individualistic freedoms from things like state rather than economics. Kind of like your Ron Paul kind of character that is pro-capitalism but fights to keep things like corporate control and market monopolies from encroaching on people’s liberties too much, just as with any other undesired authority.