• holy_scroller@lemmy.zip
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    9 days ago

    How about he Sherman Antitrust Act. It is obviously left wing to oppose monopolies, and yet it fit into and supports a capitalist system. Even communist China has significant capitalist elements. Most notably, in “post capitalist” Star Trek, Jean-Luc Picard owned a fucking vineyard in France. You telling me everyone who wanted a French Vineyard got a French Vineyard?

    • skisnow@lemmy.ca
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      9 days ago

      It is obviously left wing to oppose monopolies

      Eh, it’s also pretty centrist as well. I think you’re participating in a little bit of category sleight-of-hand there.

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        8 days ago

        Correct, China is socialist, the intermediary step between the capitalist mode of production and the communist mode of production.

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        9 days ago

        If China is not communist, then America is not capitalist

        (neither passes the purity test per definition)

        • A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 days ago

          Communism is per definition a stateless classless society. Capitalism is when the means of production is in private ownership which is the norm everywhere

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            9 days ago

            Your definition of capitalism is wrong. Private enterprise/owning of production predates capitalism.

            You can look to Smith or Marx for much more generous depictions.

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                9 days ago

                Smith in coming up with it viewed it as a system that would pay people based on hours worked so that the rich who sat around getting money off the backs of workers would be punished and the workers would be rewarded.

                Marx saw it as a system that dispersed power from the nobles to the merchant class. (With socialism as the next step of expansion)

                As a contrast to mercantilism we can say it’s a non-protectionist system based on globalization/mass imports and exports.

                Really the system never changed, the idea of capitalism was just a rebranding for the wealthy.