I don’t really care about owning for its own sake, but I know services only get worse for customers over time, so that makes me prefer owning some things.
“Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem”
Yep! I’ve gone back to the glory days of an iPod, but with an old iPhone I use just for local music when I want Bluetooth & modern conveniences. Soooo much better! I have my whole library and then some on it, 128GB iPhone 12 filled with opus music, on an app I built with AI help.
The app is just for myself and can’t be distributed as it uses some API stuff that can’t be posted to the App Store, but it took me about a solid 2 hours of work on Kiro (basically like cursor) to make my own perfect music app.
It works totally offline, scrobbles everything I listen to, and when I have internet again automatically uploads it all to lastfm. Deep listening stats, the works.
I’ve cancelled all of my music subscriptions now and have my own library of all the shit I like. For free! Want more music? Sail the seven seas!
Since a physical copy would undoubtedly require day one updates to just work properly, you would just end up with an unplayable physical copy If they decide to not make these updates available.
It’s not meant to be snarky. I suppose I just get frustrated at those who are willing to move towards a system where you don’t own a thing. I’m good, I can do without but I worry for the next gen tolerating bullshit from corps who have monopolised so much.
Because I like to actually own the stuff I buy. I don’t want to purchase access to a product for the same price as buying it outright.
I’m also salty every time I see a digital game available for pre-order. Pre-order is to make sure you get one of a limited set of copies. There are unlimited digital copies. The only thing pre-ordering a digital game does is ensure upper management is less stressed about bug fixes and botched releases.
Is that still possible with modern games? The last time I bought a physical game it came with a Steam key that locked it to my account. And that was 15 years ago. (Granted, it was Portal 2, so obviously it was on Steam. But I still couldn’t give the disc to someone to let them play it.)
You’re not wrong about wanting to actually own the stuff you buy, but your comment is predicated on the false notion that you don’t own a game you bought as a digital download. Everybody needs to quit falling for the copyright cartel shysters’ lies.
It’s important for people who buy/sell games second hand…
Also it can be nice to find an old game you bought 20 years ago in a closet with your old console and have some chance to be able to just boot it up and play it without needing the servers to still be up and running…
Almost all of my Nintendo games are physical. If I had a Playstation or an XBOX I’d go for physical copies as well. Why? Collector and resell value, also you can’t just disable my physical game, you’d have to come by and physically take it away from me.
On PC, I care less about it. If Steam shuts down tomorrow, I download everything today and unlock it via Goldberg or just pirate it on demand. On console, I either can’t do that at all or it is quite challenging to do so (with some exceptions).
How many games nowadays are available on a physical medium? Why would this be important?
Its a line, some people like to buy and own. Remember this moment when you spend the rest of your life renting your media.
I don’t really care about owning for its own sake, but I know services only get worse for customers over time, so that makes me prefer owning some things.
“Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem”
Yep! I’ve gone back to the glory days of an iPod, but with an old iPhone I use just for local music when I want Bluetooth & modern conveniences. Soooo much better! I have my whole library and then some on it, 128GB iPhone 12 filled with opus music, on an app I built with AI help.
The app is just for myself and can’t be distributed as it uses some API stuff that can’t be posted to the App Store, but it took me about a solid 2 hours of work on Kiro (basically like cursor) to make my own perfect music app.
It works totally offline, scrobbles everything I listen to, and when I have internet again automatically uploads it all to lastfm. Deep listening stats, the works.
I’ve cancelled all of my music subscriptions now and have my own library of all the shit I like. For free! Want more music? Sail the seven seas!
I’m jellyfin but have my library local on a drive. Also gonna grab a newish music player for my car.
Since a physical copy would undoubtedly require day one updates to just work properly, you would just end up with an unplayable physical copy If they decide to not make these updates available.
Yes, but by the time GTA6 is no longer available to update it will be irrelevant anyway. You can still update the PS3 version of 5 13 years later.
You’re assuming they’re keeping it alive for just as long as GTA5, which is not a guarantee.
I don’t get it, you can have a DRM and online activation on a CD, and a DRM free digital copy.
Also you come about a bit snarky.
It’s not meant to be snarky. I suppose I just get frustrated at those who are willing to move towards a system where you don’t own a thing. I’m good, I can do without but I worry for the next gen tolerating bullshit from corps who have monopolised so much.
Fair enough!
I loved the cartridge era, just plug it in and switch your console on. Great for sharing too.
But I don’t get it with a, I guess, multi 100GB game, that will contain anti copy stuff, need patches, be made with DLC in mind and so on.
For me it’s just hipsterism or the need for some “feelgood”, as it doesn’t fix the problem with ownership.
I remember when the CD could be installed 3 times, and that’s it. I prefer a DRM free copy BTW, on my drive, what’s your thoughts about that?
I’m also a bit curious about all the downvoting 🤷🏻♀️ have we stopped discussing (this is not aimed at you of course)?
Because I like to actually own the stuff I buy. I don’t want to purchase access to a product for the same price as buying it outright.
I’m also salty every time I see a digital game available for pre-order. Pre-order is to make sure you get one of a limited set of copies. There are unlimited digital copies. The only thing pre-ordering a digital game does is ensure upper management is less stressed about bug fixes and botched releases.
Is that still possible with modern games? The last time I bought a physical game it came with a Steam key that locked it to my account. And that was 15 years ago. (Granted, it was Portal 2, so obviously it was on Steam. But I still couldn’t give the disc to someone to let them play it.)
You’re not wrong about wanting to actually own the stuff you buy, but your comment is predicated on the false notion that you don’t own a game you bought as a digital download. Everybody needs to quit falling for the copyright cartel shysters’ lies.
(This is also a reply to the sibling comment by @Cherry@piefed.social, BTW.)
It’s important for people who buy/sell games second hand…
Also it can be nice to find an old game you bought 20 years ago in a closet with your old console and have some chance to be able to just boot it up and play it without needing the servers to still be up and running…
NakeyJakey explains it better, if you have 6 minutes
Almost all of my Nintendo games are physical. If I had a Playstation or an XBOX I’d go for physical copies as well. Why? Collector and resell value, also you can’t just disable my physical game, you’d have to come by and physically take it away from me.
On PC, I care less about it. If Steam shuts down tomorrow, I download everything today and unlock it via Goldberg or just pirate it on demand. On console, I either can’t do that at all or it is quite challenging to do so (with some exceptions).