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Maroon@lemmy.world to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 19 days ago

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Maroon@lemmy.world to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 19 days ago
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    I’m no scientist but I imagine if you want to cite someone, you need to access their research legally

    Holy fuck you people are insufferable. 20 down and flooding my inbox for that? What the fuck lmao

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      I’m so glad we have the ability to hold back science through bureaucracy.

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      No one checks for that, and if they did, they’re the ones with the burden of proof

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      I’m not sure how anyone would ever know

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      Not really, you need to know (enough of) the content of what you’re citing to make sure that the citation makes sense. The actual info you need to write down for the citation is easily available. How you accessed it is irrelevant.

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      Ooh, this is actually a more controversial take among academics than you can imagine!

      Around week 3 of my course I ask the question “what percentage cut do academics get for published articles”. They are always appalled to learn it is 0% (we get nothing, we are literally paid in exposure).

      Below are some other issues with the journal industry as a whole:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serials_crisis?wprov=sfla1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_journal_publishing_reform?wprov=sfla1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#Criticism_and_controversies%3Fwprov=sfla1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cost_of_Knowledge?wprov=sfla1

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      I’ve cited enough off just expanded abstracts to say, how would they even know? It’s probably better than what I did, lol.

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      > says something really dumb and bad

      > angry edit that people call out their smelly mouth filled with corn

      It’s everyone’s fault but your own.

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      I read the source of my citations, but nowhere am I required to cite the citations of my source. If you don’t wanna “try” to access my resources… well, that sounds like a “you thing”. Good luck, cause my paper remains

      Paywalling knowledge is the same as bypassing it

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      Happens often to me. I know nobody in research who would care about it. Most people will likely congratulate you for not paying for access. Nobody likes the way journals do business.

      Fuck you Elsevier.

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      20 down

      Have another one! Knowledge (and doing research) should be free and not only for people who can pay for it. Look up how ridiculously expensive and complicated it is to access those publications.

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      You clearly are not :)

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      well fuck. there go those whitepapers i wrote about, i really don’t remember, and cited articles i’d copied off the whatsit database years before before i’d lost access through the university

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