I migrated 3 times this month. From world to blahaj (that one missing downvotes) to piefied.
I’m kinda done with this “fediverse” thing to be honest. It’s cool and all that you can “just create own instance if you don’t like it”, but that like linux — we have shit load of distros and none of them work.
You said that Linux distros didn’t work in your original comment. Also Fedora is not corporate, it is developed by the Fedora Foundation. Red Hat is only a member of it.
Also Fedora is not corporate, it is developed by the Fedora Foundation. Red Hat is only a member of it.
Yes and windows not developed by Microsoft, it just part of it.
I’m not fighting with you here, you welcome do downvote and politely fuck off. My point was made - linux distros made by all sorts of weirdos and mostly doesn’t work. The one that do work - usually either belong to corporation or effort of some paid labor (even arch for example, cause it being founded after all). If you don’t like the truth that all open software suck - I don’t know what to tell you.
I am sorry that you are having such a hard time finding your way here. Fwiw initial migrations are common and relatively easy as you first find your way, and the vast majority of people here will tell the same story.
If you want to try just one more, PieFed.zip or Lemmy.zip (run by the same people) are the usual default instances to recommend to people these days. The latter would not be directly affected by it at all and the former could in theory except they’ve stated that they will reject this particular setting and disable it. They are SUPERB general-purpose instances if you aren’t looking for anything particularly specific. (Personally I’m a little put off by the usage of the .zip suffix as it has ties to Google, but realize that I’m probably both over- and under-thinking that, so please ignore my paranoia:-P)
Tbh, your choice of 3rd party app has a much greater impact on your experiences here than anything else. I don’t have much experience with those but do like Voyager - in fact I’m typing this in Voyager now. Perhaps give it a try?:-) It works with both Lemmy and PieFed so kinda doesn’t matter which of those two that you choose.
No ads!! People are nicer here!! Well, some are dicks as always but far less often than Reddit, it feels like. I hope you find a reason to stay. At least, I hope that this internal drama isn’t the reason that you decide to go - we argue bc we care about it. Be advised that the often-spoken secret to getting along in the Threadiverse/Fediverse is: block early, block often! On Reddit that has no chance of actually working, outside of small niche communities, but this is a small enough space that it ACTUALLY WORKS. Btw you can export and import your block lists as you migrate accounts, if you want to do so.
Hell yes. Tbf most of that is done already from PieFed.social. I also personally added to that a block of Lemmy.ml and I used to all the time investigate (by visiting the home instance of a post) why the comment counts looked different. I can only ever recall a single time that I regretted missing out on all that content (that one time involved Dessalines himself, who I would legit add an exception for if I could).
PieFed.zip and Lemmy.zip do an interesting thing where when you join a user-level block is automatically added for hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, and instructions sent to your inbox on how to remove that block. Thus for them, federation with those instances is opt-in, so that noobs won’t come here and not be able to tell the difference (e.g. 3rd-party apps such as Voyager by default do not show the instance name of an account), and then quit the Threadiverse in frustration before they can figure it all out.
They are thus truly New-user friendly indeed. I am talking about the language used in the PieFed instance picker, in opposition to those instances which say that they offer a “choose your own adventure” experience. That instance picker seems broken right now - e.g. zip does not appear in it at all - but it was a fantastic idea imho to offer such a list, to meet the different needs that people have.
Now unfortunately PieFed.social’s shadow-censorship of votes (even for Lemmy users) without notification as to what content has/is/will be removed make it no longer “Newbie-friendly” imho.:-( Though it does put forth significant efforts towards ensuring a “nicer” experience for its users, e.g. by outright defederation of hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, and banning of certain highly-contentious accounts on dbzer0/anarchist.nexus.
The issue of using .zip already in your comment — it runs by the same people. Moronic decisions is not “if”, it’s “when”;
Already using voyager. It’s not the reason I had to migrate: on world some admin wrote to me directly, after I blocked his community (it was full of propaganda, doesn’t particularly matter, that why we have block button) and insisted to use lang filters if I “don’t like it” — that weird behavior aside I actually went and checked lang filters, they were broken. On top of that, apparently world decided to block some instances about piracy, which is not cool with me. On blahaj.zone mods heavily against downvotes and looks like will never ,add them to main instance. They will try to add 1:10 ratio as a test to (I forgor instance name), where dislike will “weight” 0.1 of like. Which is kinda stupid. And here on piefed you already know about issues.
“No ads” not really a problem — I use ublock on PC and patched aps on Android
People, well, they are people. They are the same everywhere tbh. Maybe currently they are mostly belong to one group (like politically for example), but like, that not a good thing — it just creates a bubble of that interest. As one of example — apperently my comment about linux was offensive and due to high amount of not so well educated linux users, they drown me in downvotes. That wouldn’t happen on reddit even with comment like that, cause there you have more realistic representation of linux users, which is like, 1:10. Living in a bubble is not cool (but you do you).
That being said, I’m not against fediverse in general, I’m just frustrated as same as OP, with instance admins who decided to shoot themselves in the foot.
You seem to imply that the admins of Lemmy.zip are morons - I have not heard this, can you point me to something to read in this regard? The Threadiverse tends to rake instance admins over the coals fairly regularly, so for me to NOT have heard ill of them yet, I took it as a good sign!
Sure, I was just covering all the major bases there!:-)
Speaking of, the major thing about the Fediverse is that after being banned, you CAN at least still join some other instance, or even ultimately spin one up on your own! (impossible on the likes of Reddit, X(hitter), Meta, etc.)
Btw if you did want to spin up your own instance, I’ve heard it strongly recommend that PieFed is far easier to set up and maintain than Lemmy. The preferences of its developer team don’t mean much when you have total control over what features you want to see deployed or not.:-P
I hope you find something you can enjoy. Don’t forget to heavily touch grass irl too - not instead of but in addition to online social media - as it is much more rewarding in the end.
Wait. Mods can see when you block their community? I block communities liberally because I am often on /all and just am not interested, and I had no idea literally anyone but me would know or care.
My point was exactly as it reads: none of distros works, I say that as someone who uses linux for 15 years now, plus someone who contributed to open source projects and linux kernel (alto, not directly, it was just some conf file for touchscreen on old tablet). The few exceptions of linux distros that work well overall — are corporate managed, like Fedora. To be fair to linux, none of the other OS’es also work in my opinion, all of the IT constantly in a broken state, but maybe I’m just like this cause my job is a tech support.
So yeah, my point reads like “random people that create instances on a whim, cause they were frustrated with rules of other instances (similar to how linux distros often created) — not a good solution of a problem”.
I migrated 3 times this month. From world to blahaj (that one missing downvotes) to piefied.
I’m kinda done with this “fediverse” thing to be honest. It’s cool and all that you can “just create own instance if you don’t like it”, but that like linux — we have shit load of distros and none of them work.
“Shitload or distros and none of them work” is absolute bullshit. I’ve had less issues with my fedora based distro than with Windows 10
You currently just proving my point: Fedora is a corp managed distro.
You said that Linux distros didn’t work in your original comment. Also Fedora is not corporate, it is developed by the Fedora Foundation. Red Hat is only a member of it.
Yes and windows not developed by Microsoft, it just part of it.
I’m not fighting with you here, you welcome do downvote and politely fuck off. My point was made - linux distros made by all sorts of weirdos and mostly doesn’t work. The one that do work - usually either belong to corporation or effort of some paid labor (even arch for example, cause it being founded after all). If you don’t like the truth that all open software suck - I don’t know what to tell you.
Is this an alt of madthumbs by chance?
I am sorry that you are having such a hard time finding your way here. Fwiw initial migrations are common and relatively easy as you first find your way, and the vast majority of people here will tell the same story.
If you want to try just one more, PieFed.zip or Lemmy.zip (run by the same people) are the usual default instances to recommend to people these days. The latter would not be directly affected by it at all and the former could in theory except they’ve stated that they will reject this particular setting and disable it. They are SUPERB general-purpose instances if you aren’t looking for anything particularly specific. (Personally I’m a little put off by the usage of the .zip suffix as it has ties to Google, but realize that I’m probably both over- and under-thinking that, so please ignore my paranoia:-P)
Tbh, your choice of 3rd party app has a much greater impact on your experiences here than anything else. I don’t have much experience with those but do like Voyager - in fact I’m typing this in Voyager now. Perhaps give it a try?:-) It works with both Lemmy and PieFed so kinda doesn’t matter which of those two that you choose.
No ads!! People are nicer here!! Well, some are dicks as always but far less often than Reddit, it feels like. I hope you find a reason to stay. At least, I hope that this internal drama isn’t the reason that you decide to go - we argue bc we care about it. Be advised that the often-spoken secret to getting along in the Threadiverse/Fediverse is: block early, block often! On Reddit that has no chance of actually working, outside of small niche communities, but this is a small enough space that it ACTUALLY WORKS. Btw you can export and import your block lists as you migrate accounts, if you want to do so.
“People are nicer here” is only true if you block lemmy.ml, hexbear, lemmygrad and dbzer0/anarchist.nexus.
Hell yes. Tbf most of that is done already from PieFed.social. I also personally added to that a block of Lemmy.ml and I used to all the time investigate (by visiting the home instance of a post) why the comment counts looked different. I can only ever recall a single time that I regretted missing out on all that content (that one time involved Dessalines himself, who I would legit add an exception for if I could).
PieFed.zip and Lemmy.zip do an interesting thing where when you join a user-level block is automatically added for hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, and instructions sent to your inbox on how to remove that block. Thus for them, federation with those instances is opt-in, so that noobs won’t come here and not be able to tell the difference (e.g. 3rd-party apps such as Voyager by default do not show the instance name of an account), and then quit the Threadiverse in frustration before they can figure it all out.
They are thus truly New-user friendly indeed. I am talking about the language used in the PieFed instance picker, in opposition to those instances which say that they offer a “choose your own adventure” experience. That instance picker seems broken right now - e.g. zip does not appear in it at all - but it was a fantastic idea imho to offer such a list, to meet the different needs that people have.
Now unfortunately PieFed.social’s shadow-censorship of votes (even for Lemmy users) without notification as to what content has/is/will be removed make it no longer “Newbie-friendly” imho.:-( Though it does put forth significant efforts towards ensuring a “nicer” experience for its users, e.g. by outright defederation of hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, and banning of certain highly-contentious accounts on dbzer0/anarchist.nexus.
That being said, I’m not against fediverse in general, I’m just frustrated as same as OP, with instance admins who decided to shoot themselves in the foot.
Speaking of, the major thing about the Fediverse is that after being banned, you CAN at least still join some other instance, or even ultimately spin one up on your own! (impossible on the likes of Reddit, X(hitter), Meta, etc.)
Btw if you did want to spin up your own instance, I’ve heard it strongly recommend that PieFed is far easier to set up and maintain than Lemmy. The preferences of its developer team don’t mean much when you have total control over what features you want to see deployed or not.:-P
I hope you find something you can enjoy. Don’t forget to heavily touch grass irl too - not instead of but in addition to online social media - as it is much more rewarding in the end.
Wait. Mods can see when you block their community? I block communities liberally because I am often on /all and just am not interested, and I had no idea literally anyone but me would know or care.
No they can’t usually. I am an admin only my own instance and there is no such option.
Huh, then that makes the encounter this person had extra weird. Still, that’s good to know, TY!
Lol Troll Harder
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What part of this is “troll”?
I can buy that you were frustrated with lemmy. But the bit about how ZERO Linux distros work is just pure bait, you’re on the Fediverse my dude! :-D
Also dudes account isnt even two weeks old and only has 19 comments.
Edit: Saw their feddit.org account. 1.5 yrs old and only 39 comments and two posts
My point was exactly as it reads: none of distros works, I say that as someone who uses linux for 15 years now, plus someone who contributed to open source projects and linux kernel (alto, not directly, it was just some conf file for touchscreen on old tablet). The few exceptions of linux distros that work well overall — are corporate managed, like Fedora. To be fair to linux, none of the other OS’es also work in my opinion, all of the IT constantly in a broken state, but maybe I’m just like this cause my job is a tech support.
So yeah, my point reads like “random people that create instances on a whim, cause they were frustrated with rules of other instances (similar to how linux distros often created) — not a good solution of a problem”.