• OpenStars@piefed.social
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      Those who literally deny the existence of the massacre in the Tiananmen Square, claiming that “nobody was killed” (or far more rarely, unapologetically stating that if they were, then they deserved it). Basically far-left extremists that exist in a world of “alternative facts” just like conservatives, the common denominator being that and simping for authoritarian regimes.

      Words like “consent” tend not to matter to those holding that ideology.

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      • Krono@lemmy.today
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        24 days ago

        “Tankie” does not come from Tiananmen Square, that is a common misconception. The term “tankie” is 33 years older than the Tiananmen Square massacre.

        It originated to describe people who supported the 1956 Soviet Union military intervention in Hungary. Stalin sent in a bunch of T-35 tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution. He was successful, and thousands of people died in the process.

        Ever since then, “tankie” has been used as a derogatory term against Stalinists, Marxist-Leninists, communists, and leftists in general.

        • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          24 days ago

          To be fair, tanks seem to be a favored tool of these oppressive regimes. I’m personally not against communism, they have some good ideas like universal child care, guaranteed jobs, and housing (even though the latter may be considered sub-par by some). The problem comes when these fucking authoritarian cheerleaders come out and say communist governments were never oppressive.

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            23 days ago

            The “oppression” you’re referring to is confiscating the properties of bourgeois capitalists and landlords, and imprisoning them and their accomplices in case of resistance. This confiscation and appropriation by the state is what makes free, universal care and other social benefits possible. It’s absurd to expect the features of communism without the policies behind them.

            Also, the idea that authoritarian socialist governments just have a sadistic tendency to oppress and torture poor peasants is deeply unserious and a work of imagination created by western capitalist propaganda.

            • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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              23 days ago

              Citations in an uncensored medium needed.

              “Confiscating the properties of <insert populist excuse here>, imprisoning them and their accomplices in case of resistance. This confiscation and appropriation by the state is what makes <insert idealistic talking points that funny enough always seem to fall by the way side in terms of a priority to rounding up people yet is always the goal supposedly being reached> possible.”

              This seems like an instantiation of neocolonialism adlibs. Is your name Trump, Netanyahu, or Putin by any chance? The fact that you imply that these are in any way a requirement for universal care or social benefits gives your game away.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        Basically far-left

        we need a better topological geometry for these concepts, especially for these wacky edgecase fuckers like tankies. yeah, far left, like, you stand here, I’m going to move to your left until I’ve come around on the other side of the planet far far far far away left.

        imho the vast majority of them are ccp click patriots waiting for the taiwan invasion to kick off.

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            23 days ago

            The framing of separating the “authoritarian left” from the actual left is basically accurate.

            Why is “Far Left” marked as a trademark?

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                23 days ago

                Did you intend “intellectual property”?

                Regardless, I understand the meaning of the symbol, but not its applicability to the context.

                • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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                  22 days ago

                  Having the trademark on far left never made sense to me either, really undermines the whole thing. the plot is also missing axis.

                  I took a stab at fixing it, will add coordinates once i can find my graphing calculator