My country heavily uses Facebook for all events. Sadly I can’t find cool events without it. Even leftist groups are heavily on Meta, which I can’t understand…
Does anyone have experience pushing to get communities off of Meta? Suggestions?
I’m in a NATO “ally” to the US country
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I’m not sure if this a valuable tool to convince anyone but keep it in your favourites:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
(It gets worse the more you read)
Ultimately there two options:
- you only control your own consumptions
- you can talk to others to convince them.
The argument for others is the strongest if you do it in this order (even if that hurts/may isolate you).
I got my close family and partner to use Signal but thats about it in terms of pushing.
Recently my bouldering group also moved to Signal, which was a nice surprise. But we are most likely all a little autistic in some way.
In terms of events: there are still many places that have websites. Admittedly I don’t go out too much, but i find concerts and events just fine when i want to. It’s an active thing though and not just appearing in my feed.
I’m the only one in my band that doesn’t use Facebook and arranging a “play-date” can be a challenge, people often forget that I don’t see everything they post, and I’m often the last one to get notified about changes to our schedule or set.
I’ve given up on trying to convert them, but try to lead by example.
Everything that can be done on Facebook, can be done elsewhere, and I refuse to be bullied into supporting a horrible company like Facebook.Well there’s a careful balance needed. With close friends who are likeminded you can share your idea and maybe it’ll land, but once you’re addressing a larger group of people with an idea that goes against the stream …
You can, however, slowly change the discourse around you. Don’t partake, if the conversation goes towards fb or they send you a link respond with “oh, I dunno I’m not using Facebook anymore”. (Or alternatively “oh gee man, this link won’t load on my phone.”)
I’ve found that being hard out of the gate (“because fuck Zuckerberg!!”) doesn’t really work on people who are in there. What does work is presenting an alternative they can relate to “man I stopped scrolling fb because it’s such a waste of time, went for a walk today”. That’s neutral and wholesome and they can’t really object to that.
It’s not direct but subtle, now you’ve planted the idea that there’s people outside of the fb hive mind. People who might be enjoying fulfilling lives outside of fb.
Best of luck, you’re not alone in this fight.
What plateform do you use to replace Facebook ? Signal groups?
I’m trying to convince people around me little by little to join me on alternatives left and right. (Easier said then done) Still gotta get some self hosting going.
Fb style networking in particular. I dunno man, I don’t know if I still want to be out there for anyone to find, companies to sell my data, …
Fb initially was a fun way to rediscover old contacts but really, it became more of aan annoyance to me than anything.
Lemmy is fun because you decide the content you get and it’s to the point. No extra bs, just txt and some pics.
Yes the issue with the Facebook format is that the Fediverse alternatives aren’t that polished. Friendica’s UI/UX is not optimal.
Ah call me crazy, I actually prefer the more terminal styled look of Lemmy.
Welcome to discovering how completely inept every single person you know is at anything “technological”.
I’m seriously just thinking of never talking about technology around real life humans again. It’s so depressingly pathetic.
Yeah I basically need Facebook for the events and WhatsApp is absolutely necessary for work and social life. Absolutely everybody uses WhatsApp so if I didn’t it would be like not having a phone… I guess in nonprofits that are open to being critical against the “Big Tech” “Gafam” you could try getting people to check out Mobilizon or if it’s just planing a date with friends then Framadate is better suited. Of course there are probably other alternatives that could fit some use cases better but I think giving one option to people is better than ten and forcing people to then choose.
Part of it is a chicken or egg. I go into these platforms and there’s nothing there, so I don’t check them. Organizers see nobody checking them, so they don’t maintain them.
Well framadate is just a link to send to friends to pick a time and date for a meet up so you dont need the network.
Mobilizion can be linked to a website or your own calendar I guess but I suppose there are just too many people that use Facebook indeed.
The reality is it’s incredibly difficult to cut ties with the Meta tech, as we got so used to it since the Facebook early days, then WhatsApp, then Instagram, etc.
There are alternatives but to convince half world to change is a huge task. Human Beings resist change by default and stick to something that works.
It’s also convenient because you can create an event and your friend are right there to be invited, so it’s an effortless task.
If you want an alternative you need to have something convenient, effortless and very easy to use.
Something like an app that lists events in your area, you select one event and then share it with your contacts. Or an app that shares integration with Facebook but does create invites outside Facebook.
There are plenty alternatives and ideas.
