Ah yes there is the short description at the top. At the moment it talks a lot about “it”, good idea to make it more focused on “you”. How about this?

Lemmy is a discussion platform that is truly free. You choose which communities to be a part of and which posts to see. You can use extensive blocking and filtering tools to sort and curate your feed. You are in control and not a corporation, so there is no tracking, advertising nor secret algorithms. And you can follow the development in the open, or get your own ideas included.

Good suggestion, thanks!

Youre right, the whole website could use an update and redesign. As none of us Lemmy maintainers are designers, its very hard to do this well.

There is no tracking/statistics on join-lemmy.org, but some new users mentioned it, and mentioned that the site could use improvements (which I’m doing now).

The target audience is basically anyone who comes across Lemmy somewhere, looks for it via search engine and ends up on join-lemmy.org. So in other words, anyone really. Including people without any prior knowledge, nor technical knowledge.

On joinmastodon.org I only see a single sentence at the top: “Social networking that’s not for sale.”

Btw I didnt get any extra notifications from this comment, so no worries. And thank you!

There is a link but I made it a bit more obvious.

Yes the topics are not ideal, opened an issue about this: https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/issues/540

Yes, theres an open issue for this: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/6154

Coincidentally thats exactly what I did:

Still needs some more changes though.

That wouldnt be enough to get the kind of statistics mentioned in this post.

Still its the main feature. Plus the sentence is a bit short like this. Or mention that it is open source instead.

This one is too long, I would only use the first part:

Lemmy is an open-source social network that functions as a global web of independent forums

Plugins mainly have hooks which are called when a new post is created, a comment is updated or things like that. Giving plugins access to everything in the database is more complicated. We could let plugins execute SQL and get the results, but that has security risks.

• user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
• ban rate
• percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)

These wouldnt be hard to add as we already have the data. Its not relevant for normal usage of the site, so it could be a new endpoint /api/v4/statistics. Feel free to open an issue.

• signup acceptance/rejection speed

Already being added: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/6126

• percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
• average time spent on signup page
• bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)

These are more difficult as it would require new frontend logic to collect the data, then send it to the backend and have more changes to store it in the db. Not worth the effort in my opinion, but you can also mention it in the issue.

Sounds good, but I would keep the Fediverse in somehow, eg “A federated discussion platform for communities”.

“Decentralized” may not be technical, but still its a long and complex word. “Fediverse” seems friendlier to me.

Some other people also mentioned this, made a post to gather suggestions: https://lemmy.ml/post/41767599

Makes sense, I created a separate post about this: https://lemmy.ml/post/41767599

Makes sense, this is similar to the changes I drafted in #524. In another comment we also talked about a list of manually curated default instances and I selected a few.

Possibly. Dumping everyone at lemmy.zip is a possibility too. lemmy.wtf is is a bit too on the nose.

I would avoid using instances without “lemmy” in the name like reddthat, it was very confusing to me when I started out.

That makes sense. I went through the list and found these as reasonable defaults: https://lemmy.zip/, https://lemmy.today/, https://thelemmy.club/, https://lemmus.org/

Then it would be one of the monthly tasks for @dessalines@lemmy.ml and me to go through this list and keep it updated.

The new front page looks much better and cleaner. Not sure about the “Apps” though, people need to create an account first so.

At least some of the apps let you register directly, though I dont have an overview of that. Would be good to contact the app devs about adding a registration option where it is missing. They might have the same doubts which instances to use as defaults.

Also I’d call it “Mobile Apps” instead, “Apps” is a bit vague.

It also includes web apps and desktop apps…

I still plead for removing both buttons and directly showing the “instance selector” in the middle area, with the “See all instances” showing in the top bar only. Maybe slightly more prominently than the other top bar icons

Which instance selector do you mean?

The definition used by Reddit currently is also possible

“News aggregator” and “Link aggregator” is very similar, either one works for me.

One of the buttons talks about “instances” and the other one about “servers in your new design”. Not sure what the difference there is

No difference, its just that “Instances” may not be clear to new users. Should definitely be made consistent before merging.