Future proofing, at some point I will go 2.5gb sync or higher on my Internet pipe, the connection I think can go 10gb sync with some upgrades to the local exchange.
Also because I can, and almost everything else I own for my back haul already has 10gb ports and the bandwidth to support it including my router and all my switches.
Do I need it? Absolutely not, its just fun to do and the only reason I haven’t done so yet is cost of suitable hardware.
Biggest issue with this stuff as almost always is that the average consumer finds this too complicated.
The fact you have to have everything a modern and up to date wifi 7 setup, including all your devices, and make the right decisions over topology pushes it out of reach of anybody but an enthusiast or someone paying for a top tier install.
Excluding people who cannot lay cable between their mesh points because they renting, a wired back haul is always going to be more reliable and consistent. Plus the average consumer gear loses one or more radios to do the back haul.
Biggest thing wifi 7 offers is better coexistence between multiple heavy users on the same access point, assuming everything is wifi 7.
The speed increases are irrelevant to 99% of the population as I can still max out a 1gb synchronous internet link on wifi 6. My current back haul is 2.5gb, if and when I go wifi 7 I am looking at going to 10gb otherwise what’s the point? How many enthusiast level aps come with 10gb back haul?
The budget for Galaxys Edge was cut by Chapek, it was only part of what was planned and what did get implemented was often less than originally planned.
Other than cutting the budget, I think were they went wrong with it was making too high a concept for a theme park and centering it around the less popular sequel franchise time line. It made for a confusing experience for a more casual Star Wars fan.
I stand by RotR being an S tier ride, when it isnt operating broken, because its over complicated and the maintenance budgets were cut.
You can’t optimise for the test, thats what VW did, they optimised fuel flow, power, etc. A)and thats what got the huge fine because its cheating. They didn’t get out and push the car round or fit hidden fuel tanks.
You’re the one who defined these tests as real world, me i will take an average of results excluding outliers adding weight to real owners results.
For this, nobody was getting over 300 miles from normal, mixed driving. This test at 330 miles ish, lmao.
I also don’t live in a fantasy land that the car can get this level of economy. Also the 2026 year did have some modest boosts to efficency, nowhere near a 25% increase that these results show.
Honestly this pedantry and lack of any evidence all you have? You haven’t even looked at the details of the test for the 2026 car.
You really haven’t, VW demonstrated its easy to set a custom run routine because its a set criteria if you apply your mind to it. EVs are no different at all to diesels in that they can be optimized. All you’ve done is hand waving, “no they didn’t”, which isn’t exactly proving anything. Meanwhile they have the furthest out set of results of any EV, so I know what we have more evidence for.
Its the latest model of the Tesla that’s beaten the EPA mileage, the one you have referenced here:
You are looking at old reviews. Ones in the last year or so show the opposite.
and you said you would get more reviews for, but failed to do:
It is definitely not. I’ll try and send you a bunch later. There are at least a dozen that all came to the same consensus.
You need to show how a mid life refresh can result in an easy 25% improvement in efficiency from previous tests from the same tester, because to me thats just more hand waving using completely different cars. We are talking about Tesla here
Then explain why they have consistently been miles more optimistic when compared to their competition with their advertised range vs. both EU and US tests? Its always been a huge difference.
The car has not fundamentally changed shape with the latest model, its not suddenly had an improvement of more than 1kwh per mile, which is what would be needed.
Its a complete fantasy I am afraid as that sort of improvement is unheard of in modern EVs mid generation refresh, which this is. Other people would have reproduced the test results by now and be shouting it from the roof tops, do you have such results? As I see a distinct lack of them so far.
The fact that I put in in italics and suffixed it with a no sir coupled with the fact that I have been very clear that they are always miles off should have given it away that I was being sarcastic, next time I will use a /s. But this is straw clutching at best as I have been consistently hammering them over their larger than average difference on range, how would this be happening without cheating?
The standardized tests are just that, standardized using an actual published method that’s auditable. The issue is if the manufacturer is cheating, but outside of that you have confidence that the test is applied the exact same to all cars . If the test is suitable is irrelevant at this point, as its applied the same to all other cars so the same variance exists for all.
Whats wrong with “real” world tests is the lack of auditability and accountability for the ones I have seen. This single test has been spread far and wide, I notice you haven’t shared other sources yet for this. It just smells of a cooked or lucky test. Lets be clear here, the car has to be doing close to 5 miles per kwh to achieve this amount of range with such a small battery, they are claiming 339 miles for the standard, that has a 60kwh battery.
5 miles per kwh with normal driving (which is what the test is advertised at), doing 70mph motorway speeds in a medium sized car is frankly unbelievable. Getting 5 miles per kwh out of a tiny EV doing low speed cruising in favorable weather is hard, not unachievable, but hard. Getting this out of that car for normal driving? I have massive doubts.
Where did I say VW didn’t cheat? I went back to check and I clearly said they did.
Only ones i have seen are quoting Edmunds that are standardised. If its not standardised then its garbage as its even easier to game. Even basic things like a heavier right foot, more use of the break pedal, turning down the regen, turning up the aircon all have an mpact.
Even with the Edmunds one I really have my doubts over the methodology as it would need to break 4 miles per kwh over actual mixed usage. Breaking 4 with hypermiling is easy, breaking it while driving completely normal in that size for car? Not easy.
But its perfectly possible to optimise just for the test and it no longer matches real life, this is exactly what VW did. When it gets to that point that the car is detecting the test (or otherwise put into a test mode) then its clear cheating and time for large fines.
I don’t really buy the Edmunds test for this as it seems to be a sole one at the moment. It also has an average speed of 40. Also how are they accounting for environmental conditions as these are massive for EVs? It just feels like PR puff piece to me after Tesla had been slated everywhere for very obvious fixing of their range estimates.
It wasn’t consistent in the first place, EU cars usually had much lower ratings than Tesla, yet would be far far closer to the official EPA rating because Tesla got away with more optimisation before.
Tesla are the same in the EU despite it being a completely different setup thats been revised a few times over years.
No test is going to give accurate numbers, we all drive differently over different conditions with different loads in the car. We can just get closer than we are now, there is still too much space to hypermile in the current tests for WLPT.
What should happen is manufacturers who are clearly missing by a lot should be heavily fined as with VW and dieselgate.
Most quoted ranges from reviewers are considerably under what I get from normal driving so they are no better, I presume they drive with a heavy foot.
Real world numbers from EV database tend to be my starting point
Its been a consistent story with Tesla that they are always miles off regardless of the test, not suggesting that they might be cheating with software as with VW and dieselgate no sir
Optimising for the test is a widespread practice with everything from smart phones to cars
Nobody hits the WLPT but Tesla are usually the furthest from it.
I know the Tesla had a refresh but its not updated the fundamentals to the same level, its more than an actual generation with its current tech levels and specs vs. the latest competition.
These are WLPT, which is a European rating. No manufacturer hits this rating but Tesla are still the furthest off.
Model Y is more than a generation behind now and it gets nowhere near the advertised range, Tesla are one of the worst for that. Obviously you aren’t going to be getting 500 miles in real world driving in the other cars either but you will be a lot closer to the advertised range than the Tesla.
The Volvo is working on about 4.4 miles per kwh, which seems extremely optimistic for anything but hypermiling in the summer. I am expecting about 425 miles in the summer, or about half that if towing.
I tow with my Ioniq 5, just over half my annual mileage, so I have been waiting for this group to launch as its going to be a huge increase in range. The extra range means I can drive for four to five hours without a charge, which is more than I want to anyway as my (and my dogs) bladder wont last that long.
He is also tying it to a company (SpaceX) that the US government relies on, so in the event one of the other basket cases drags everything else down he is trying to ensure he will get bailouts. Any sensible and non corrupt government would just require the dead bits cut off, but we know that isn’t what is in place right now.
“In the latest move in Labour’s drive to inject AI into Britain’s bloodstream, the government has announced four US tech companies – Microsoft, Google, Cisco and Adobe”, ah, a complete scam it is then.
The fast charging at the platform is the most interesting thing here, three and a half minute top ups are up there for turnaround times. If it proves to not excessively degrade the battery with high number of charges then it makes much longer routes with charging points as and where local infrastructure can support a charging point. Would greatly reduce the cost and disruption to implement proper electrification for routes that would struggle to justify it otherwise.
If you look at the rate its dropping it will be close to zero in eight years.
The people left could almost certainly get by with a 5G (or likely 6G by that point) setup properly, and the extreme edge cases left with sat based internet like Starlink.
Yes, thats clearly a common setup requirement for the majority of people on freeview who don’t have more than 10 Mbps broadband.
There are always edge cases, they are rarely helpful in understanding problems like this as the cost to support them far out weighs the number of people it helps. I would suspect if you means tested this group most would fall outside of qualifying for assistance anyway.
I used to run 3 4k streams plus social media use for 4 adults on what was often 65mbps. You only need a reliable about 5 Mbps for a HD stream for iPlayer, the 10 Mbps more than covers this for the majority of people in this situtation.
Its not that bad if you go with mikrotik, but their configuration isn’t for everyone as its a long way from say Asus in terms of simplicity.
Their budget 8x10gb is about £220, pretty reasonable for a fully managed switch. Sure its not going to let you max out all 8 ports at the same time with multiple vlans even with the hardware offload, but whose expecting that from a budget switch?
I am never really going to benefit from it fully, not least in the short to medium term. What I will get is the fun from upgrading.