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Instead you must phrase it as “only a loser would ever ______” or “the democrats really want you to ______”

Yeah, I had to watch the nytårstale on youtube because it was region locked on DR.

I also wish I could stream Danish media, but the Scandinavian streaming services are also region locked

Thanks! I appreciate that and I’ll keep that in mind. I’m using Babbel, which has native speaker recordings, so I definitely understand the challenge of pronunciation but I think I’m slowly getting it.

It only goes up to A2 though, so if I ever make it to Denmark I’ll have to use Prøve i Dansk and maybe attend a language school.

I’ll DM you if I have a question I can’t find an answer to!

Ah, thank you. Honestly I’m already formulating an exit plan; if midterms aren’t administered fairly this year then all is lost.

Denmark is at the top of my list of places to try to live, but migrating permanently there seems like a challenge. I’m already studying Danish though, just in case.

Fair enough. I just meant cause I’m (unfortunately) american, but I’m not going to stop extolling democracy just because fascists are destroying it here

One of the most telling social trends I’ve noticed of late, is how now for some reason it’s viewed as a weakness to acknowledge the other’s viewpoint that you don’t agree with, or even to preemptively discuss counterargument to your own point. Both of which things that are classically encouraged in literature on healthy debate skills.

But now, as soon as you say “I hear that you’re saying _____, but…” it’s like you get cut off and they think the conversation is over and they just won. Like, no, not at all. Why is society rewarding that behavior?

Another one is addressing intrinsic biases. Like, you practice self-awareness by saying “I may be biased in this respect, but…” and then they go, “See! You’re biased! I win!” Like they’re missing the whole point that everyone has biases, and by pretending to be unbiased they’re actually revealing the extent of their ignorance and lack of self-awareness. But for some reason society today tends to favor the people who don’t admit to having biases, as if it means that person is the unbiased one.

It’s infuriating, but I don’t even try to talk to people anymore. There’s just no good faith discussion left to be had in the world, it seems…

Sometimes I see people say stuff like “Anyone who says ‘the situation is more complex than that’ is just using it as a cop out because they don’t want to face the solution”

And I’m like, can we not normalize seeking simple solutions to complex problems? That’s partly what got us here today, and every “simple solution” that people try only ends up adding another layer of complexity to the problem for someone else to try to figure out later.

Anyone who thinks the world and its problems aren’t complex is too ignorant to be in a position to demand everyone accept their simplistic solutions.

And there you go assuming they would be stone age. We’ve come full circle.

Really? I’ve seen it creeping into the collective conscience for at least a few years now.

You’re imagining a future civilization will be so devolved that they would have less colors than we do? You’re not even approaching this from a standpoint of reality, so I’m done here.

Not every grave contains valuables, and ones that do would be marked with more elaborate symbols and ornamentation.

Nobody’s tombstone has a skull and crossbones on it, your argument is completely detached from reality

I don’t think carnists are desperate, they just don’t care. They don’t view it as unethical.

You can try explaining to someone the harms of the meat industry from an environmental standpoint, an animal rights standpoint, a food security standpoint, a worker’s rights standpoint, and some may be amenable with the right amount of convincing.

But trying to bludgeon someone into compliance through shaming and demanding them to change is heavy-handed. And especially when carnists are in the majority, it’s not likely to be effective either

And you’re too dense to understand that literally every human being who’s ever lived or ever will is capable of drawing the inherent connection between the skull and crossbones and death, due to the inherent relationship between them.

Literally Carl Sagan even proposed using the symbol. Is he too dense to understand too?

There’s no rationally debating them. It’s like trying to rationally debate maga. They’ll ignore everything you say and make up scenarios that would make you the clear loser, and then bludgeon the strawman to death with insults and repeat themselves over and over no matter how many times you point out how irrational they’re being…

Your arrogance is showing. It’s embarrassing for you that you don’t see it.

“i’Ve ReSeArChEd ThIs, trust me bro” oh yeah, and I suppose that means you’ve encountered a culture that doesn’t understand the meaning of the skull and crossbones, since you’re sooo confident they would think it means treasure?

By the way, pirates didn’t mark their treasure with the symbol; that would be stupid. They displayed it on their ships to instill fear in their victims before boarding.

Genuinely curious. How do true anarchists propose to prevent crime syndicates from gaining power and becoming a de facto government, committing extortion, racketeering, and human trafficking?

Or are they just running on the assumption that after the collapse of society, people’s appetites for wealth, power, and influence will simply evaporate?

Exactly! I’m sorry a tankie got butthurt and downvoted you.

If you take their theory at face value, correct. If you observe their attitudes and actions, you see that they don’t really care about implementing those theories. They only discuss them to give themselves a veneer of moral superiority.

Stalin didn’t lift the proletariat out of poverty; he merely starved and murdered all the peasants who didn’t join his party. He didn’t liberate the masses, he implemented a highly oppressive surveillance/police state.

The average anarchist will be the first to try to bully someone into complying with their preferred systems of social order. They only want there to be no government so that nothing can stop them from forcing everyone else to conform to their will.

That’s what I mean by “covert” fascist. Nominally leftist, practically not.

You do understand that a modern or post-modern society will have their own tools to detect radiation? We don’t need to optimize for them, we need to optimize for those people who haven’t developed that far.

Yes, and do you realize that not everyone in a nuclear-capable society wanders around with a geiger counter? If an archaeologist digs up a plate with an atomic diagram of a radioactive isotope, they would at least know “hey, maybe I should get a geiger counter before digging any further.”

Oh yeah? Have you seen any research demonstrating that people unfamiliar with that iconography associate it universally with death?

Dude, when humans die, they decompose, leaving behind a skull and bones. I’m not making any assumptions based on “pirate media.” Pirates used the symbol because it’s universally recognizably as implying “death” or “danger.” It’s highly arrogant and insulting for you to think any other culture wouldn’t be capable of drawing that connection.

Yeah, not like millions of people have been following such rules for thousands of years.

And modern society, particularly in scientifically-minded sectors, already view that as archaic superstition. How are you going to convince enough nuclear engineers to join your cult in order to maintain an unbroken apostolic succession for millennia?

We LITERALLY have religions that survived their languages & scientific knowledge dying off, and most of our modern religious ideas are simply remixes of previous ones.

Name one religion that has survived its original language dying off. Reconstructions such as neopaganism don’t count, and neither do languages that can still be translated.

Also, if the nuclear radiation cult’s mythology gets “remixed” by a new religion, then it loses the intent of preserving a warning for future generations. Do you honestly believe modern christianity has maintained the same intent as the original?

I still value democracy, while recognizing that the US is a shitshow right now. The americans who support democracy are not in favor of what’s going on right now.

Throwing out democracy because it’s being destroyed by a fascist in america is akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Democracy is the baby. It’s fragile and helpless on it’s own, and requires attention and active participation from adults in order to be nurtured and grow. Fascism is the pile of dog shit the baby got into when the adults left the room. The baby just needs a bath.