Let Nvidia go bankrupt, we won’t miss it
If consumers can’t get new gpus, devs aren’t going to bother spec’ing for them. This’ll probably just result in a stalling of tech you’ll see at home for a few years. Honestly that seems to be happening already. The leaps we’d seen in previous generations seem to be slowing anyway. Maybe this is just a plateau of tech for a while. Good for consumers when they accept that they don’t have to always be on the bleeding edge.
So they can sell them for even more thanks to scarcity I’m guessing.
So that kind of means that the high-end AAA PC market will crash in the next years, right? No new GPUs, production stop for existing GPUs and rising prices for GPU & RAM in combination with inflation and a bad economy ensure that many people can’t afford a gaming computer. And that a lot of those younger gamers can’t afford to start this hobby.
And that means a shrinking audience for games, which need all this GPU power. If you’re an AAA publisher, it kind of looks crazy to invest multiple millions into a game that you can’t be sure that your audience will be able to afford to play
Yes, but think about the money in mobile and console gaming… PC gaming was niche even before that and we represent very small percentage of the overall gaming industry. Nobody gives a fuck about us since some time already. Now they just show it to us in daylight.
Don’t worry, you can Stream It From the CLOUD™️ for the low low price of 6x what a GPU would cost you over 5 years.
yea you can wait in a queue to play your unmodded single player experience game
Definitely a shrinking audience for AAA games, but I don’t think it will be too bad gamers overall. Consoles will keep marching forward, as will Valve with the Steam Deck and Steam Machine.
I think the highest of the high end graphics stuff has long since hit diminishing returns. You can do a hell of a lot with yesterday’s hardware and less-than-bleeding-edge process nodes for newer hardware. Consoles have never used bleeding edge GPUs and they’ve always done fine with sales (across the whole market, if not always individually). I think we’re highly unlikely to see a repeat of the 1983 gaming crash.
All games will be streamed, with a subscription
Retroarch disagrees. I don’t need your newfangled enshittified slop. I have megaman X and wine.
Shhh! Don’t give them any ideas!
They’ve already been pushing this for like a decade now. GeForce now has been a thing since like 2015.
Way too late. This has been a talking point for a while. The AI bubble will burst but that doesn‘t mean they‘ll just return to their roots. Those new data centers need a use case and they need a good reason to keep building more.
I guess the silver lining is that this plan B won‘t work out either so we‘ll have to see. But until then we better take good care of our current hardware. It will probably have to last a good while longer.
Cloud computing is the real endgame. The big tech bros want to price consumers out of the PC hardware market (GPUs, RAM, NVMe, etc.) so they can offer a cloud solution via subscription model.
These Chinese are catching up very quickly on GPUs, RAM, etc.
This would be a massive own goal for the existing incumbents.
If the end game is cloud, they will tariff the shit out of these. For exemple i bought slimeVR hard ware, from Europe 280€, from china (190€ + tarif 66€) from China coming from US 240€
Someone is going to make bank by catering to consumers. Will the market accept nvidia back with open arms if/when the ai investments fall through?
As a Linux gamer, nvidia was already on thin ice.
Also I had past them up on recentish purchases since they only really controlled the highest end of the market which I don’t have the budget for. So honestly I have no intention of welcoming them back unless there is literally no other option. You made your bed.
That would be nice. But video cards are a VERY niche piece of engineering. The knowledge of HOW to make them is locked in a handful of people, and the ability to make them locked behind a very niche set of equipment that will ALSO be exploding in cost.
One does not simply start a graphics card company.
I don’t think a newcomer could do it, but a company like Intel is posed to be in a good position. They don’t have much market share but they have a good product.
The problem with that is Intel is subject to the same bullshit economic assessments as AMD and Nvidia… They’ll just as soon retool for ai as well.
Intel is arguably worse. They‘re in a bad spot right now so they can‘t do crazy things like Nvidia but they totally would and will go down the same path. I don‘t think US designed hardware will ever truly come back to end consumer products.
Nothing will. They’re moving us onto techno feudalism. We won’t earn anything and we’ll be wage slaves if they’re merciful to us, otherwise most people will be in camps and dead, unless we stand up real damn soon .
They’re actively moving away from the bottom 90% of consumers, it’s just not worth it anymore and maybe once it was worth advertising to us, but no longer. The top 10% owns 93% of stocks and control at least 55% of the market revenue as of early 2025, probably closer to 60-65% now, after tariffs, layoffs, and the nonexistent recession We’re all imagining and definitely isn’t real. /s
Well what do most victims of exploitation and abuse do?
Visiting Stockholm?
I hear it’s nice
Most people are willing to sell their morals. When nvidia comes crawling back it will be like nothing ever happened.
Intel, here’s your big chance!
Intel is partly owned by the US government now. You think they want tech going to the people when they themselves want them for skynet.
Maybe, unless it takes so long that everyone already has a chinese card or something
I hope they don’t have the production of non-ai chips then.
Would this mean AMD finally gets the supply demand it Reserves?
More and more gamers are seeing Linux as the OS of choice so hopfully that will mean more interest in AMD as well.
Unfortunately AMD is affected by RAM shortage too.
Amd is arguably more affected. Intels CPUs have memory built into it, and intel bought about a years worth of memory.
LOL fat fucking chance
Despite them being perfectly worthy competitors, gamers will literally never buy AMD.
I buy the card with the highest benchmark scores that I can afford. It’s not a political green vs red choice.
I did :( I’m very happy with it too.
Same. I only buy AMD.
