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  • Skavau@piefed.social
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    Taiwan literally can’t safely officially repudiate the ‘one china’ policy from their end because of the possibility that China would see that as declaring independence and potentially regard that as justification for military intervention. No-one in Taiwan seriously believes that it is conceivable to retake the mainland, nor any other historically old ROC territories.

    • Hamartia@lemmy.world
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      Or, maybe, as they have long hoped, the US will put these children of a brutal aristocracy in ‘charge’ again.

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          They would certainly struggle to do so but that doesn’t stop the ROC wishing it would.

          Their hopes probably made more geopolitical sense many decades ago.

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            You got any actual evidence that people in Taiwan actually wish for this in any appreciable numbers?

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              Who, the indigenous Taiwanese, or the cancerous ancestors of brutal monarchists from the mainland?

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                Sorry, are you calling all people of Han ancestry on Taiwan inherently “cancerous”?

                And I am asking for evidence that a significant amount of people, the majority of citizens of Taiwan seriously desire and hope for the mass annexation of China.

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                  Do you mean the people of Han ancestry on the island of Taiwan that claim sovereignity over parts of India, Russia, Bhutan, Pakistan, Japan, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tajikistan; and all of Tibet, Mongolia and the People’s Republic of China.

                  Those people that imposed forty years of martial law on the population of the Island (commonly known as the White Terror) so as to commit Politicide, executing over three thousand, imprisoning over one hundred and forty thousand, not to mention killing between eighteen and twenty eight thousand to thwart a popular uprising. Those people that after two generations of crushing repression felt secure enough, in their possession over the Island’s levers of power and capacity to generate income, to allow elections.

                  Is it those people that you want me to speak to? Or are you trying to push this in some kind of ‘All Lives Matter’ direction?

                  • Skavau@piefed.social
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                    Do you mean the people of Han ancestry on the island of Taiwan that claim sovereignity over parts of India, Russia, Bhutan, Pakistan, Japan, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tajikistan; and all of Tibet, Mongolia and the People’s Republic of China.

                    Can I see some evidence that the majority of people of Han ancestry on Taiwan specifically, and seriously claim sovereignty over those territories and actually specifically plan and desire to launch a military assault to retake them?

                    In regards to Mongolia specifically, they no longer claim this.

                    Those people that imposed forty years of martial law on the population of the Island (commonly known as the White Terror) so as to commit Politicide, executing over three thousand, imprisoning over one hundred and forty thousand, not to mention killing between eighteen and twenty eight thousand to thwart a popular uprising. Those people that after two generations of crushing repression felt secure enough, in their possession over the Island’s levers of power and capacity to generate income, to allow elections.

                    Sorry, are you claiming that every single Han Taiwanese person now are guilty by blood for what their ancestors did?

                    Are you also claiming that every single Taiwanese person who was alive during the White Terror was inherently implicated in the actions of the regime? Do you hold the same position for Spanish people during the Franco Regime, or Chileans during the Pinochet regime? Are the current people of Spain or Chile all just “those people” in relation to their authoritarian periods?

                    Is it those people that you want me to speak to? Or are you trying to push this in some kind of ‘All Lives Matter’ direction?

                    No, I want you to provide evidence that the majority of the overall population of modern-day Taiwan specifically call for the invasion and annexation of the PRC and other territories that you mentioned.

                    All I’m getting so far is you being massively racist.