I hope this post fits the content and format of this community, if not I’m sorry.
I’m just incredibly shocked by the fact that an admin of the instance lemmy.dbzer0.com is openly supporting Hamas.
Here’s a link to the comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61235665/23634712
The posted comment never represents one side as “good”. It correctly identifies one side as resisting imperialism and colonialism, while acknowledging its lack of perfection.
There is no excusing rape and murder of civilians. You can’t handwave such atrocities as imperfection
You’re posting hasbara again, and what’s more is it’s “every accusation is a confession” shit with a growing mountain of evidence that Israel military forces like the IDF and IOF use sexual violence to terrorize Palestinian civilians as well as incoming aid workers trying to help starving children.
Please stop re-perpetuating this harmful and wrong misinformation.
I don’t support Israel or IDF, they can go suck a bag of dicks lol
But surely you can acknowledge that the rape and murder of civilians isn’t resistance?
why is it so hard for yanks to understand that both things can be bad
I am not endorsing Hamas as the legitimate leadership of Palestine. But I am saying that there is no credible evidence of rape and murder of civilians “as resistance.” You are perpetuating a harmful zionist talking point uncritically and it does the work for who you claim not to support for them. The world is filled with enough injustice to speak truth into the world about how genocide and the starving of children is wrong without doing what you’re doing here.
Hamas raped women during the 7th of October and sexually assaulted hostages. There was also the whole massacre thing during the 7th of October where the terrorists filmed themselves shooting elderly in their homes.
These guys have no argument except calling everything Hasbara, it’s such a shit show.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_October_7_attacks
Since they know they have no ground to stand on, they default to base programming.
I think it’s a sunk cost fallacy, they can’t handle considering that not everything is so black and white and that resistance movements may not always be the ‘good guy’ – They’re in too deep.
Yeah ambiguity is hard. Defaulting to campism is easy. Israel bad, Palestine good, Hamas good, Tankies happy. I just wish some of the self proclaimed Marxist would actually be able to think dialectical.
Do you have any substantial argument or do you always call common knowledge “Hasbara” if it doesn’t suit your narrative?
“Imperfect resistance” ahhh, the classic terrorist supporter dog-whistle.
Much like MAGAs “novel legal theory”
Your argument is circular and inane.
Try engaging substantively.
I genuinely don’t think you know what either of those words mean if you think they apply to what I said.
You are describing terrorists by using normatively loaded language to make them sound like just little guys trying their best and making little mistakes. It’s disgusting.
Israel is a terrorist state that calls as terrorists those who challenge its ambitions of occupation, apartheid, and genocide.
Being vilified by Israel is not one and the same as being fundamentally wicked.
Correct. And Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Hamas is labeled terrorist because it was assigned the label by Israel.
Hamas is terrorist only as much as one terrorist entity is credible to decide exactly which groups or factions are terrorist.
More generally, terrorist simply is a label states assign to their non-state enemies.
By the same standards, the Continental Army would be terrorist, as would be essentially every belligerent that has engaged in anti-colonial struggle.
Regardless, it should be concrete facts, not abstract labels, that are used to support arguments and conclusions.
Imagine both of this can be true!!1