In retrospect, it could be hilariously worth it to buy an ad spot and just play that “enjoy 30 minutes of ad free listening” blurb.
Or buy ad space to play a short song.
You can sue them. If is not specified that must be in a row you CAN sue, or at least you can report them with the competent organization. It’s in normal language, not legal language. People using spotify are not lawyers, are normal people. If the thing says “30 minutes free” it do must mean that, no “ooohhh you mean, 30 minutes, like, in row??” bullshit.
Fuck Spotify. Also, I can’t hear the music that I want in their free plan, because I choose some song and the platform plays whatever they want. Again, fuck them.
Yup. And sometime last year they made getting a cracked version of Spotify an incredible pain in the ass and the guy updating the crack stopped supporting it and instead is choosing to focus on YouTube ReVanced.
My library on Spotify is over 6k songs. Been trying to slowly get them downloaded onto my phone.
You can sue them.
Excited to collect $.26 in damages after six years in court.
They probably have a forced arbitration clause. Using an arbitrator of their choice, of course.
There’s 30 minutes ad free spread over the duration of your subscription. I thought everybody had figured it out.
So, over the course of a year I get 30 minutes that aren’t ads?
damn you’re so mad, you should demand a refund for all $0 you’re paying them
I don’t know if you can do something similar in the USA or any other country, but in México, we have PROFECO. You can call them and tell them that some company is providing products or services using false advertising, even if those are “free”. It is called “protect the consumer”.
Real radio be like: 30 minutes of music free ads.
At least real radio doesn’t collect your information
More of a technical limitation than an intentional choice, but sure.
I prefer to call it a ‘mechanical failsafe’.
Until you dial in to one of those give-away events, sure.
but that’s a very consensual action, they literally have to ask you for those information not just start harvesting in the background
Almost like downloading an app…
you don’t fill out the information the apps are harvesting directly, it’s way less consensual there than verbally filling a form
I’m a school bus driver and in the mornings the kids beg me to play music on the radio. So I turn it on, set it to “SCAN” and then I don’t hear one fucking actual song the entire rest of the ride. Even the local classical station is somehow just people babbling.
Music streaming makes this worse. Radio has become a race to the bottom. If you’re listening to radio you probably prefer the bullshit gossip.
What do you do when you’re not driving a school bus?
When I was 19 I was in a band with this really strange kid. He was super charismatic though, and just seemed to make friends with anybody he met. One of those people happened to be this 40 year old bus driver. We went over his place one time to smoke a joint, and he showed us his grow room. This was in like 2005 or so, so all very illegal. He got in my face about not telling anybody and how I better not be a narc. Anyway… Then we ate some pot brownies and watched a movie. The brownie I ate wasn’t doing anything so I ate another and learned a very important life lesson about edibles. If you’re not feeling the first one, don’t eat the second one. I was high as fuck. Banished to the shadow realm, some might say. Took a few hours to regain my composure and walked home. It was a weird fuckin night.
So yeah. Probably anecdotal but “what do school bus drivers do when not driving a school bus?” - grow weed, and eat pot brownies with teenage punk rockers and watch movies.
Not a bus driver but I’ve seen enough of them to answer this question.
When they aren’t driving the bus, they are either waiting for kids to get on or off the bus or they are briefly investigating who threw the stray projectile that hit them before they pulled over but usually settle for the complete silence as each kid pretends to not remember what throwing even is, let alone admit who threw anything. That silence never lasts more than a minute after they start driving again, though sometimes it will only be whispers for a while if the bus driver screamed in rage or broke down in tears.
Ride my bicycle. I’m a retired software engineer.
Oof. Your bus doesn’t happen to have a way of using one of those Bluetooth FM blaster things does it? Just play something off your phone through that tuned to the right station on the radio. The one I drove didn’t havr nothing for that, but mine was old as shit. Tho I guess not old enough to have a cigarette lighter port for the kids that smoked.
Our buses have an aux input jack. I just don’t ever feel like messing around with an aux cable and USB-C adapter just for 15 minutes of music. Although i would really enjoy making my elementary school kids listen to Shpongle.
Play them incomprehensible jazz prog and metal. The stuff only the music prodigy will even be able to identify as music.
Angine de Poitrine it is!
May I introduce you to our lord and savior Groove Salad on SomaFM?
Did they say thirty minutes in a row?
That’s supposed to be a comma - “Enjoy 30 minutes of ad, free listening”
No, money down!
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30 minutes of ad free music. Not all in a row though.
Dispersed over a 10 year period.
I’ll just keep downloading music thanks.
Vlc download and streaming tool my beloved
paying artists nothing is worse than paying them a little
You do know that artists sell their music online, right?
Paying spotify to punish artists and pay industry bodies who in turn funnel money to rightoid hate groups is worse than starving artists.
Also, most artists get fuck all from Spotify or any of the streamers. Its a dead model and the only thing we’re guilty of is felony contempt of business model.
Fuck it, real fans steal the music and turn up to gigs.
Paying spotify to punish artists and pay industry bodies who in turn funnel money to rightoid hate groups is worse than starving artists.
Let me know how suing people for downloading music on Limewire works out for you
Also, most artists get fuck all from Spotify or any of the streamers
There’s more music released every minute that can be listened to in a lifetime, this is what happens when supply outstrips demand
Fuck it, real fans steal the music and turn up to gigs.
That’s cool and all but not every artist does gigs and most people don’t go to them, so there needs to be something for the other 99% of people, which conveniently, is called Spotify or Qobuz
Is it even stealing when the front door is open and brings FLACs.
I don’t know if it’s stealing but I feel better knowing when I listen to music artists get paid
As someone else pointed out:
Today, Spotify accounts for roughly 30% of recorded music revenue.
That’s a lot of artists making music we enjoy who are able to eat at night
And before Spotify, artists were able to make more money with physical media, that the customers owned for life. Spotify essentially made the situation worse for both the artist and the consumer.
Damn your memory really goes like this
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People going down to the record store to buy CD’s
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Spotify :D
You really missed out a whole decade of music piracy and CD sales falling through the floor
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Theres also a lot of aritists having their media streamed by these companies who get absolutely zero because they’re being robbed by Spotify and the industry at large
Just because Taylor Swift gets her cut doesn’t mean its just and fair.
Infact, I’d say thats just concentrating wealth in the hands of power again… So… uhh… I’mma keep “stealing” it and buying band merch instead.
“Downloading music” doesn’t say anything about whether or not you pay for it.
I download and then I buy the actual physical media releases from the bands I like. Lots of bands even release their own music for download.
what about the bands you don’t like? I assume they subscribe to your free with no ads and no money plan?
wait why should my money go to bands i dont like
Because you’re still listening to their music ? Do you buy the merch of thousands of producers who make ambient music? Do I need to have the ambient track hit me in a way that all the others don’t before they are worthy of being paid?
What an absolutely batshit insane take.
No, you shouldn’t be paid for making something nobody wants. Same reason I think everyone who works in AI should have all their money taken away.
There used to be plenty of music stores where you could listen to the music before you bought it. They all died because of Spotify. Good job supporting an industry that killed physical media, pushes AI “music” to the masses and enables Nazi podcasters. Nice fucking Job.
Also, Go to Bandcamp. You can listen to all the music there. Then you can decide to buy the music and in return you get to download the FLAC files. Most artists even let you decide how much you want to pay. You come off as someone who’s never taken a step out into the world and just gobbles everything up that is spoonfed to you.
There used to be plenty of music stores where you could listen to the music before you bought it. They all died because of Spotify.
Incorrect, the answer we were after is Napster
Because you’re still listening to their music ?
Why would anyone download and listen to music they don’t like…?
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6048DIIHRMegUg0IHm7T5m
How do you propose I recompense all the artists on this playlist for example?
That’s 8,902 songs
I duno, how do you guys find new music to listen to?
Sometimes I’ll just put a playlist on with 1000 tracks in it, maybe a couple I like, most are ok, some of them i skip, in my world they all get paid, in your world only a tiny tiny fraction of them do
You listen to music you don’t like…?
artists dont get shit from spotify…ypu want to support artists buy their merch
Today, Spotify accounts for roughly 30% of recorded music revenue.
More artists get more money from Spotify than from anywhere else
Last post from me, I’m not here to educate every left wing boomer
I’m more bothered by there being ads inserted in podcasts when I’m a paying customer tbh
https://www.audiobookshelf.org/ For your podcasts
https://www.navidrome.org/ for your music
https://symfonium.app/ for playback of both
https://github.com/spotbye/SpotiFLAC for stealing raw FLACs from fucking Tidal using Spotify metadata because I guess their shit is about as secure as a picnic basket held closed with an anti-bear ziptie.
https://symfonium.app/ for playback of both
Does this have a 10/15sec skip button?
Wait what. I know some platforms for managing podcasts like Anchor shove in ads, sometimes even mid sentence, but this is the first I hear of Spotify itself inserting them
This is what made a lot of people I know stop using Spotify for podcasts.
My coworker told me they were listening to a podcast, and while the podcasts host were mid ad read for their sponsor, Spotify put an ad in. So he got an ad during an ad.
Thanks, Xzibit.
Can confirm. I got annoyed with it and moved away from Spotify for podcasts a year or two ago. #NoRegrets
Yeah even on free I never got a Spotify add on a podcast. Those were the podcasts themselves putting ads in.
Podcasters that upload to Spotify have the option of inserting ads and making money from this
Most of my podcasts don’t but some do, actually I think the ABC is the only one that does, and it says if you don’t want to hear advertising use their podcast app, so maybe it’s a way of punishing us for not using their app
Then again besides the ABC’s If you’re listening all my other podcasts are french language learning ones…
Did they stop just grabbing podcasts from the free web and playing them in Spotify? I remember from a few years ago that some podcasts were complaining and willing to sue Spotify for stealing their content.
I can’t find anything on this at all
That was some discourse in the podcasts, in Germany at the time which has a pretty big community
Why not just use antennapod?
I don’t care for podcasts at all, it’s just because they’re adjacent to the app I use the most that I stumbled upon them, the ones I listen to don’t have ads except the abc’s if you’re listening and it’s what, 30 seconds for something I listen to maybe once a month?
Oh I gotcha that makes sense.
That’s why i quit spotify.
Are they inserted ads or ad reads by the podcast themselves?
Inserted ads, although in my experience they’re placed by the podcast network rather than Spotify.
And you’re sponsoring fascists…
Man I haven’t gotten that “30 minutes of uninterrupted listening” shit in a few months. I swear, they’ve been slowly increasing the amount of ads per song, from like 1 ad per 4 songs to I shit you not, 2 ads per song. I usually have to restart the web page since it gets stuck on desktop, or close the app on mobile. They’re probably overcompensating since they’re salty they aren’t getting any revenue from me.
I’ll never understand why people don’t just make playlists of music and save it down locally.
I had no less than sixteen hours of music in CDs stuffed in my glove box back in college. Would cycle through that maybe once or twice a month. Maybe I’d throw on a little NPR if I was curious about the news. But why on God’s Green Earth would you subject yourself to the garbage radio networks available in the modern era?
I for example like the fresh experience so i really enjoy spotify discover weekly to listen through and find something i can put into my playlist. So in a way i dont have fixed playlist just my liked list
But i also pay for spotify beacuse i listen to so much music with constant new additions to my playlist i legitematly think its one subscription thats worth the money and pretty much the only one i even use with the exception of a month of Netflix when new bogdan boner egzorcysta drops on Netflix roughly once a year ( not really possible to buy separately, but that man is a genius of polish cinematography so i will suffer through it so that he may get my support and continue his work ).
Sending files from one device to another has been made intentionally difficult by phone makers.
I hate the pay for ad-free subscription model. They use people’s personal data to optimize the experience, making their ads as annoying and disorienting as possible.
When Reddit first unveiled their subscription, they began spamming my phone with obnoxious herpes advertisements. The ad just said “Herpes?” in big purple letters. Since this particular subject invoked a sense of fear and anxiety, it made me more likely to pay for their removal.
You get 30 minutes of ad-free listening, but not all in a row. Sounds like you got 8 minutes worth already; after this ad, you can get another 8 minutes.
If this is the actual rationale, I will collect someone’s ankles
cough Calaboka cough
Back when I used spotify, it was exclusively via desktop browser with ublock, never had an ad load
The Pirate Bay doesn’t have ads.
compares tpb to spotify 🤣 fark these boomers so out of touch
Well it does but only on the website where your ad blocker gets them gone for you.
Isn’t this comment an ad for the pirate bay?
Y’all are getting full tracks?
