Solid means it can deform elastically under shear stress, or equivalently can hold it’s shape indefinitely under shear. Crystal means the atoms are arranged in a repeating lattice. Glass is both solid and non-crystalline.
It’d be pedantry, if that didn’t also match our intuitive understanding of solids. What you said implies to people that glass might have fluid-like properties.
No, it does not imply that it has fluid like properties. The sentence that I posted simply implies that there’s something different about it than a normal solid.
I mean, there’s no real way for any of us to prove it will be interpreted one way or another, even if the rest of us are sure. So, in the name of not being a pedant, I guess you can see it that way.
It’s not a “false solid”, which would be the antonym. Glass is not an ordinary solid, I guess that would be true.
What is It with pedantry In this thread for real? So because I said true and not ordinary, everybody’s gonna take me to fucking task? This was supposed to just be a fun thread about interesting scientific facts. It is a scientific fact that glass is different than other solids, which is what I said. I’m not understanding why everybody has to be an asshole. But I’m fucking done with it.
Did you even read the article you posted yourself? The first sentence is:
In condensed matter physics and materials science, an amorphous solid (or non-crystalline solid) is a solid
So it’s absolutely a solid. The reason for the name is because the structure being non-crystalline gives it interesting properties and is something that doesn’t usually happen. For most substances there is at least some sort of repeating or self-organising structure.
With another state of matter, for example gas or liquid, the structure can’t be seen as it’s constantly changing. Structures might form and then go away. Only when transitioning into a solid the structure becomes fixed. For most materials this is some kind of pattern or repeating structure, with amorphous materials it’s essentially random without any structure. So by definition these are solids, otherwise the structure wouldn’t be there at all.
You didn’t even post the entire sentence that goes on to describe why it’s different than a solid. You are like the media cherry picking a sound bite to try to make somebody look bad. Wow… I genuinely don’t understand the desire to be this pedantic.
All I originally said was not a true solid. If you’re seriously going to take me to task on that ELI5 explanation then you need to reevaluate your priorities.
No, it’s just assholes being assholes that are making it like Reddit…
I didn’t post nonsense. If you honestly think that you would explain to a child that glass is a solid and just leave it at that then you’re touched. Leave me alone for real.
“Glass is the same as a solid it’s just different than a solid.”
Seriously? Why are you being pedantic?
Solid means it can deform elastically under shear stress, or equivalently can hold it’s shape indefinitely under shear. Crystal means the atoms are arranged in a repeating lattice. Glass is both solid and non-crystalline.
It’d be pedantry, if that didn’t also match our intuitive understanding of solids. What you said implies to people that glass might have fluid-like properties.
No, it does not imply that it has fluid like properties. The sentence that I posted simply implies that there’s something different about it than a normal solid.
I mean, there’s no real way for any of us to prove it will be interpreted one way or another, even if the rest of us are sure. So, in the name of not being a pedant, I guess you can see it that way.
It’s not a “false solid”, which would be the antonym. Glass is not an ordinary solid, I guess that would be true.
What is It with pedantry In this thread for real? So because I said true and not ordinary, everybody’s gonna take me to fucking task? This was supposed to just be a fun thread about interesting scientific facts. It is a scientific fact that glass is different than other solids, which is what I said. I’m not understanding why everybody has to be an asshole. But I’m fucking done with it.
Because the thing being solid has nothing to do with the structure being crystalline or not. You are confusing two unrelated different things.
Sure, that’s why it has a different name. I’m moving on now.
Did you even read the article you posted yourself? The first sentence is:
So it’s absolutely a solid. The reason for the name is because the structure being non-crystalline gives it interesting properties and is something that doesn’t usually happen. For most substances there is at least some sort of repeating or self-organising structure.
With another state of matter, for example gas or liquid, the structure can’t be seen as it’s constantly changing. Structures might form and then go away. Only when transitioning into a solid the structure becomes fixed. For most materials this is some kind of pattern or repeating structure, with amorphous materials it’s essentially random without any structure. So by definition these are solids, otherwise the structure wouldn’t be there at all.
You didn’t even post the entire sentence that goes on to describe why it’s different than a solid. You are like the media cherry picking a sound bite to try to make somebody look bad. Wow… I genuinely don’t understand the desire to be this pedantic.
All I originally said was not a true solid. If you’re seriously going to take me to task on that ELI5 explanation then you need to reevaluate your priorities.
Alright, tell me in your words why it isn’t a true solid?
Because like the other dude said, it’s like saying an HD TV isn’t a true TV because it’s HD. It makes no sense at all.
“Tell me something I’m already going to dismiss.”
No. Now go away.
Alright, just don’t go saying shit like “Boohoo this place is just like Reddit” when you post nonsense and get down voted for it.
No, it’s just assholes being assholes that are making it like Reddit…
I didn’t post nonsense. If you honestly think that you would explain to a child that glass is a solid and just leave it at that then you’re touched. Leave me alone for real.