• VibeSurgeon@piefed.social
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    4 days ago

    Congestion, roadworks, 20mph speed limits, and the expansion of cycle lanes and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs), have all been blamed for the decline.

    Man, what a privilege to be dumb enough to believe this.

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      4 days ago

      Wait… Buses typically go 7.1mph but a leading cause is they have a speed limit of 20mph?

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        4 days ago

        7.1mph on average. That doesn’t mean they never reach the speed limit.

        In theory, increasing the speed limit will also increase the average speed ( as long as they are able to make use of the extra limit).

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          True, but if the average is about 1/3 of the limit the issue is likely not the issue. To increase the average by increasing the upper limit would require a massive increase. If many buses are being slowed by a 20mph limit, how many must be less than 3mph to get a 7.1mph average? If we fix those 3mph and bring them to 6mph imagine how much the average would increase…

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            4 days ago

            I wasn’t suggesting that increasing the limit would be a solution to the issue, only that it could (mathmatically) increase the average speed.

            I don’t think anyone is suggesting that 20mph limits are solely to blame, and certainly not a “leading cause”.

            On a side note - Is 7.1mph average in a busy city even that slow for a bus? Considering they have to be stopped for several minutes to let people on/off and stop regularly for red lights.

            I’d be interested to compare to the bus’ average speed to a car taking the same route.