Just look at Beijing! Crazy progress from back when it was a smog hellscape every day.
No shit
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Still a waste of resources. Public transport for the win!
Not a waste of resources. Electric buses are only viable of there’s an infrastructure for them, which wouldn’t exist without the popularization of electric cars. And before you start laying tracks everywhere, there are plenty of geographies where they aren’t applicable.
I don’t think there is really a geography where trains are not feasible. I also don’t think (charging) infrastructure would be a problem because public transport should be highly predictable. And saying that 3 ton vehicles that are mostly used less than an hour per day are not a waste of resources is disingenious. I know a lot of people can’t imagine a life without cars, I couldn’t at some point, but it is possible and it is even better.
I’ve lived without cars most of my life. It is better to have reliable public transit, it’s true freedom. I’m enthusiastic about public transit, trains, metro, streetcars. You should educate yourself about their limitations. They age actually quite restricted to flat surfaces.
Maybe you can tell that to the Swiss, or the Austrians… Some of the best train connections, in the middle of the Alps.
I thought we were talking urban mobility. Unless you’re suggesting tunnels and bridges criss-crossing hilly neighborhoods. Or perhaps you thought I was referring to buses in cross country service?
I am using public transport for everything, urban, suburban, cross country. Trains, busses, trams, subways, sometimes even cable cars. There is a public solution for everything, in my opinion. Although, the more urban and the higher the population density the easier.
Edit: I am not sure if I am just missing your point. Are you just talking about electric busses in an urban enviroment?
Never let “perfect” stand in the way of “good”
It’s a start, not a magical transporter to the finish line.
We will not get rid of car centricity with electric car centricity. Cars are to resource intense to be part of a sustainable world. People should hear the truth from time to time…
There has to be a large enough electric powered vehicles (bicycles & Etc. just are not large enough, from a bicyclist only person, who has to be lent automobiles from time to time) to meet all needs.
Does not mean everyone should own 1 or more, they should only be allowed to be used:
In car pool situations, come to each people’s location or each person’s location when needed & leave to go to the next people’s or each person’s location,
Obviously have solar cells on their bodies
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Fly & if need be drive on the ground
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the least important-
Come in the shapes of classic automobiles (it would be cool if it customizable by a vote on the passengers, but not a must).
All of these are technologies that already exist, just separately.
Think about this, commercial air travel industry no longer need ed, fades away, huge benefits.
I am not advocating for absolutely no cars, but it shouldn’t be the default to own one. Neither should it be a necessity in order to participate in society. Car sharing is of course a good solution for the last kilometer.
”Neither should it be a necessity in order to participate in society.”
I could not agree more, living in unincorporated & Ag area of automobiles heavy South Fl.!
