• brewery@feddit.uk
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    20 days ago

    Historically it was the English flag but since brexit it’s a mix of both. I have noticed the English nationalists have seemed to join with the Scottish, Welsh and NI nationalists, and outright talking about grouping up that didn’t seem to happen before

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      20 days ago

      Considering what’s going on in Belfast, I’m sure that won’t cause any problems anywhere else in the UK.

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      19 days ago

      I had this conversation with a friend of mine who saw a Union Jack and mentioned that they probably vote for Reform but I put my foot down, they don’t get to claim our flag as their own. No way. Not happening. They’re welcome to display the flash but for me it’s a symbol of of multicultural Britain and not of the closest racists party.

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        19 days ago

        How do you/we go about reclaiming it though? I’ve thought about it a lot. It has it’s official place - outside buildings, government use, anything with the Royal family etc. It’s got it’s sporting place - union jack for Olympics and British teams, England flag for English team in other sports. Anywhere else you have to assume they’re racist or at a minimum very nationalist, especially after Raise the Flags. In one way, as a brown person it’s helpful to know which places to avoid!

        I don’t really don’t want to use the flag outside of international sports, im not going to put it outside my house or business, I don’t carry it around etc

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          18 days ago

          It’s a good question, and I don’t fly the flag outside my house or on my car either. But I simply won’t allow the rhetoric that it’s somehow become the flag of Reform. I’ll simply tell people to F-off and remind them that the fish represents the entire country and not a single issue or party.

          I’m just angry the the flag my grandfather fought under us now the banner under which Nigel “F-face” Forage or Tommy “the racist” Robinson is trying to claim. I’ll just keep defending it.

          I’m going to try to will it into being. It probably won’t work but I feel like I don’t have a choice.

          I’m also jealous of the US, at least they have the flag of losers that the racists can fly instead of the national flag. We need a UK version of the Confederate flag so thatv we can separate it from our multinational identity.