• LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    To be fair you could probably one punch a seagull and one punch seems completely reasonable for something stealing your pastry.

  • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    This is literally the most polarised comment section I’ve seen. Both sides of the argument for and against the killing are getting downvotes out the wazoo

      • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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        5 days ago

        I am for smacking the seagulls. One smack is enough. Beating it to death or slamming into a wall is overkill.

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          It’s still senseless, while being willfully cruel and violent; it’s just a smaller magnitude in the same wrong direction.

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            I don’t think so. It’s my food and if a seagull comes in to steal it it’s getting smacked away. It is the way of life. You think a different animal would let a seagull steal its food? I doubt it. And my benevolence only stretches so far.

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              The situation isn’t that a gull is trying to take your stuff, it is that they already have and the person is seeking revenge.

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              There’s ‘smacked away’ and then there is ‘repeatedly punched so hard that it’s chest cavity caves in’ though.

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                  Yes, I was just pointing out that the dude in the article didn’t just ‘smack away’ the seagul, so we agree.

                  I’m thinking I worded my reply badly, making it sound like a counterpoint when it wasn’t.

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            Oh, absolutely.

            Beating it to death is ‘overkill’ though if your intention was simply to ‘make it sorry’.

            Tbh, reading this thread it seems like a lot of people don’t feel able to pull their punch accurately enough to both make a seagull regret taking your food and not injure it in the process.

            I mean, if you’re really angry, and you’ve physically caught it, what’s wrong with screaming in it’s face then throwing it into the air. It’ll be off like a bat out of hell after that.

            But at the end of the day, it’s a bit of food, not even worth doing the above either but I guess it depends on your anger management skills.

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            You underestimate the resilience of wild animals. A slap will only do them good.

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                  No, my downvote is not cruel. You are engaging in absurdity and frivolity to distract yourself because you are not willing to emotionally process what is actually a very difficult topic, one’s own cruelty and violence. Like a child, you just say whatever obvious nonsense comes to mind. The content of what you say isn’t important, as long as it functions as a distraction.

                  Whether or not it’s “the only way” does not attempt to refute my point that it harms the person doing it. There is a cost. That’s just more misdirection.

                  Ultimately you will “win” every argument this way, because bad speech is cheaper than good speech, and you can just keep saying nonsense until the problem goes away. Congratulations, you found the loophole to never having to have a real thought.

        • Mr Poletski@feddit.uk
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          5 days ago

          I hate to be that guy but beating it to death is ‘kill’.

          Beating it to death, then continuing to beat it some more… that is ‘overkill’

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    You can’t do that? I thought it was pretty badass, actually.

    I’m an animal lover, but seagulls are a different story. They’re the MAGAs of the bird world, and it’s okay to smack one around if you catch one stealing from you.

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      5 days ago

      I was mugged by a gang of gulls in California. One swooped in and kicked over my fries, then the rest rushed in to grab what they could. A family at the next table rescued me. “Circle the wagons,” the dad said.

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      Nah they’re protected species in the UK. Idk what the law looks like elsewhere. It does seem a little cruel to punch the bird and it not die and then leave it to go wander off and die from its internal injuries. I’d have more respect it dude just broke its neck and have it a quick death.

      Kind of reminds me of Canadian geese in the USA, I wish I could kill those bastards but they’re protected. I don’t know if it’s possible to get a license to kill them or not, depends on how they’re protected and the legislation around it - I’m too lazy to bother with any of that and don’t hunt so wouldn’t go through the hoops anyways. Those things are a menace and mean as hell a lot of times but you just live with it.

      I’m curious now though if the USA has protections for seagulls or not.

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          Seagulls and most other gull birds are not protected under federal law, however disrupting/modifying wildlife of any kind (including seagulls) without a permit is illegal. However on a state level some do protect many gulls including seagulls while also controlling their population to reduce nuisance.

          Then you have places like Florida, where seagulls are not even protected under the local animal cruelty act. You could torture them for being the scavenger animals they are and not get into any trouble at all. It’s really sickening.

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              Fair, but seagulls are not migratory and aren’t in the list far as we see (unless we’re blind)

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            As someone from Florida, this is a true, but once you have been the victim of, or seen families become victims of, a swarm of these assholes, you can understand people reacting violently. As another commenter said: I disagree, but I understand. For me personally, when I would go to the beach, if I saw 30+ seagulls sitting on the beach, I’d tell the kids “sorry, not today” and we’d leave. They are that bad.

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          6 days ago

          In Denmark they’re everywhere in the cities too, only thing more frequent then these shitbirds is rats.

      • iocase@lemmy.zip
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        You can hunt Canadian geese in Canada ironically. They’re apparently not bad eating and the bag limit is 2-4 depending on which province.

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        … Why do you have this need to harm animals for behaving like animals? Did your mother not love you or something?

        Seriously, you think it’s normal wanting to kill animals just because something a few of them did annoyed you?

        They didn’t attack you

        They didn’t shit all over you

        And even if they did… It’s animals doing their thing, just let them. Whatever you think these birds did to you I guarantee you that humanity has treated them a hundred times worse. If anything, birds do have a reason to kill us

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          You forget, we are animals. And deep inside we still have those primal moments. Where don’t fuck with my chip or I’ll fuck you into the afterlife.

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          Why are you trying to lecture that animal about animals? Did he shit all over you?

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      I’m an animal lover

      written with the flesh of vulnerable individuals still rotting between your teeth

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            I dunno, I am a bit old and sinewy to be honest. You probably want to cannibalize someone a bit tastier. Perhaps if you slow cook me it would turn out better.

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              Fine, your children then. IDC, whatever, life is meaningless to people like you and me when sensory pleasure is involved. Serve them up, yum. I love your children.

              Exploiting the body of a vulnerable individual and causing them grievous harm because it feels good to you has a lot of names, and they all apply to you.

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                Oof not sure how we got from harming a seagull to killing and eating children. Seems like an unnecessary escalation.

                Not sure why I am getting so much animosity here as my reply was pretty much a joke. But sure, all that is bad is me and you are a saint for talking about killing and eating my children. Cheers!

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    This is a sort of energy we need to be bringing to the US World cup. Give the cops something to really worry about.

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      Seems like a somewhat bad idea. US law enforcement don’t get punished for murdering US citizens. They probably wouldn’t care about using overly aggressive tactics for even benign situations.

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    The people that are self righteous here should reevaluate eating meat if they eat meat. Most of your arguments could be made against butchering animals for food.

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    Good riddance. Fucking birds should’ve gone extinct sixty-five million years ago with the rest of their misbegotten ilk.