Neocities Is Blocked by Bing
blog.neocities.org
Over the past few months, the Bing search engine has completely blocked the domain neocities.org, including the front site and all user subdomains (example.n...
  • RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    802·
    11 days ago

    Before you say haha no one is using bing… Your beloved DuckDuckGo uses bing results and this means it’s censored there too. And it’s not only about the start page https://neocities.org/ (which can be found with DuckDuckGo via Wikipedia Snippet). None of the hosted sites are in the index.

    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
      151·
      11 days ago

      Well is that true? I searched duckduckgo and kagi something and neocities and both gave results. Bing did not.

      Edit: Seems like I got lucky with search terms. Often it returns nothing the more terms I try. The AI tool in ddg always returns sites so thats weird.

      Well whateever, I switched to Kagi anyways.

        • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
          5·
          11 days ago

          irony machine neocities

          My first duckduckgo result was a scam result site for that domain to check if it was safe, lol.

          Second result was the creators website page that linked back to neocities.

          The duckduck AI result at the top however was a direct link to the neocities page. Interesting.

          Kagi’s results were first result was the link.

          I concede though, it is hit and miss with Duckduckgo, even doing site:neocities.org

          • RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            11 days ago

            Interesting, if i do site:neocities.org with a random search term e.g. site:neocities.org anime in DDG I get zero results. In google, this yields thousands of neocities subdomains. Do you get any relevant results in DDG this way?

            • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
              2·
              11 days ago

              Yeah, I see that. I must have just been lucky with my choice of search terms. I concede, its worse. The AI function shows them though, which is due to it crawling the tags? I don’t know.

              I havent used google in a long time, I switched to Kagi and it works.

  • eleijeep@piefed.socialEnglish
    371·
    12 days ago

    Wouldn’t want unmoderated* information and opinions appearing in Microslop search results now would you?

    *unmoderated by Big Tech Fascist AI Filters

  • ptmb@piefed.zipEnglish
    7·
    11 days ago

    I was hoping qwant, with its own (partial) search index, would be immune to it, but searching for neocities also doesn’t show any results for neocities.org there unfortunately, or at least it did not for me.

  • Auster@thebrainbin.org
    7·
    11 days ago

    So, going by the blog post, the entire domain got sanctioned due to a few (proportionally speaking) malicious domains?

    If so, wtf 💩

    Also, for things like this, I’d suggest linking to sites one uses (Neocities or otherwise) between one’s friends and followers so discovery of sites flow through the chain of trust. Not as fast discoverable, but avoids algorhithm decisions like this, or shadow ban, or ill-intended sites paying to appear higher, or so on.

  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    71·
    11 days ago

    While I think it’s shitty that they did this, part of me also kind of likes it. The most resilient form of web behavior includes bookmarking sites and discovering new sites by them linking to each other, rather than getting all your sites from a search engine. I get that search engines are useful for lots of things. But maybe this will help kick people’s search engine addiction if they realize there’s lots of good stuff out there that you can’t trust a search engine to surface.