I don’t know if keeping the usernames visible is a good or a bad thing at this point, but it kinda sucks for insecure people who don’t wanna get roasted lol

  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    People who delete their post after getting an answer are bad citizens of the community.

    If everyone did that it would be a wasteland.

    If I see you do it regularly I will block your posts so as to not waste time.

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      I think this is a good mentality to have. We need to preserve and archive the Internet as best we can. I really wanted to delete my old Reddit account after the API change, but I realized that it would make any tech support threads useless if I just deleted all of my potentially helpful comments. I’ve been there on the other end when looking up a tech support questions and the OP just deleted the solution I was looking for, that was the worst feeling!

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      Otoh sometimes people realize they posted something rude and insensitive, and are not the kind of asshats who double down on bad positions but instead prefer to take our lumps and try to do better in the future

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        If so, it’s entirely possible to edit the post by crossing out or even erasing all the offensive words and adding or substituting an apology. “I’ve realized I posted something rude and insensitive here, so I’ve deleted it and will try to do better in the future.”

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          In a similar vein, I wish people who lose arguments could be better about leaving it up.

          We’re all anonymous here so you shouldn’t let your ego get in the way of debating ideas and debunking bad ones.

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            Especially since there’s no accumulation of points here! I like to look and see the reaction numbers, but they don’t affect anything beyond that one moment in that one place.

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        yes i often do it because it sounds wierd or it is could be a misinterpretation. usually people are aggressive with things like misinformaiton/propaganda usually leave it up. aside from teh bots who delete theirs immediately.

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    Unless it’s legitimately a mispost (egregiously wrong place) I’ll usually just edit if I was wrong and let it stand for posterity so other fediverse users aren’t left wondering

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    Sometimes someone says something awful, and I just go the fuck off on them. Paragraphs of refutal, logic argument, citations. And I let it sit for a minute, and go back and delete it because I just don’t like my vibe and honestly what difference will it make?

    But then I get upvotes because some users can see deleted comments, and it makes me feel pretty good

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      From what I understand, this is more about legitimately good posts getting deleted and basically the solid info amid the responses getting lost/inaccessible as a result. Despite the decreased anonymity, the loss of information for the hive mind is severer than on Reddit, where deleted stuff can still show up in search engines, or something like that. I don’t remember the details of how it works but it’s a mounting problem with Lenny’s design. Perhaps a better explanation by me elsewhere in this post: https://programming.dev/comment/24979223

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      What of someone posts empty comments as an answer to a hot thread, then deletes it, to make people think the person knew the answer?

      I know what I’m doing today!

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      Sometimes I comment, then immediately think about it and say “I really dgaf” then delete it. Look at me funny all you want.

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    I delete my comments regularly few weeks after posting them, because often my paranoia kicks in, and I feel like I have to at least cover my tracks a bit. I do however, do my best to leave up all comments that answer something or have relevant information.
    When I switch accounts to a new one, I delete my full comment history, though. I know this is bad for the continuity and history and everything, but I have not figured out ways to lessen my paranoia. And it does not help, that I somewhat lack in emotions, and do not care much, what people I do not know, think about me or my actions. So my options are, either keep doing this, or stop commenting. So far the first one has won.

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      Seems like good practice. I just recently learned that your up/downvotes are also visible for everyone, which seems odd and sketchy privacy wise. Which result in way less voting by me.

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    Being roasted isn’t the end of the world. You will emerge cooked but flavorful.

    Seriously though just remember we are all just bots anyway /s

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    I really need to make an undelete instance. It would be incredibly easy to federate and then just ignore the code that executes a delete when it receives it via ActivityPub.

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      I support this.

      People need to deal with their own bullshit, and also understand that… the internet is forever.

      Take some accountability and grow from a mistake, and foster a culture where its normal to be stupid and wrong about some things, and then grow… none of this bs ‘i have never had a bad take’ nonsense.

      If you want something to be temporary, figure out how to say it in an actually temporary, disposable way.

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          Judging from the current vote counts on my comment, I’m apparently doing that right now, lol

          I guess being accountable for the things you say, and being aware that govts and megacorps archive everything already… these are apparently significantly unpopular ideas.

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        Ah yes.

        I will make sure to tell the fascist police that I’ve learned my lesson when they kick down the door and take me to their secret prison for posting online content supporting minority rights. I’m sure I’ll have plenty of time to foster a culture where it’s normal to be stupid and wrong while they’ve got me locked up.

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          … you don’t get it.

          If you made a post, on lemmy, and then deleted it?

          … you didn’t actually delete it.

          Somebody already archived it. Some three letter organization, probably many of them, and they often talk to each other.

          An undelete instance would just make that more obvious to more people.

          If you’re worried about persecution due to being a minority or supporting them… you need to actually learn how to secure your online communications, you need to figure out how to effectively seperate your real identity from your online one.

          Lemmy is public.

          Anyone can archive the entire thing, at any time. If you are worried about the fascists, as you should be, you need to learn actual security and privacy practices.

          … the internet is forever.

          The doorkickers aren’t going to care that you ‘deleted’ your post after they already made a copy of it.

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            I get it just fine.

            I post on Lemmy because I wish to take a brief moment to communicate with other people about a specific subject. I don’t do it because I wish to take part in the construction of an online archive of everything that anyone has ever said that can be easily scanned to profile people, harass them, and for other such fun anti-social uses of technology.

            I know perfectly well I cannot prevent anyone from doing that. I can, however, make it slightly harder to do. And I choose to do so because I can.

            What you have done is create a moral justification for surveillance capitalism. Zuckerberg would be so proud.

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              … No, I haven’t.

              i’ve described reality as it is.

              I’ve also said that in general, people should be allowed to publically make mistakes and publically learn and grow from them.

              If you want lemmy to … actually support truly deletable posts and comments? And also be public facing?

              Go redesign it then.

              You are ignorant of how the actual mechanisms at play here work, and you’ve decided that me describing them to you is somehow a moral defense of surveillance capitalism.

              You can’t have something that is totally public yet is also truly totally redactable at the same time.

              You’re just mad that you don’t understand how software works, and lashing out wildly.

              I don’t do it because I wish to take part in the construction of an online archive of everything that anyone has ever said that can be easily scanned to profile people, harass them, and for other such fun anti-social uses of technology.

              Then stop communicating on any public facing communications platform.

              What you said there applies to all of them.

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              I can, however, make it slightly harder to do

              I may be missing the “it”, but what are you referring to and how?

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                I regularly go out of my way to delete my comment history on Lemmy. It doesn’t prevent a malicious actor from actively tracking and archiving all my activity throughout the Fediverse, but limits the visibility for someone who isn’t willing to spend resources just for that purpose.

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        I just gave up on that, decided to thwirl my moustache.

        If someone interprets my comment wrong, I will just play up the role of a really fucking evil guy.

        Life is easier when you don’t care.

        All that matters is getting X goods to Y people.

        Everything else is cheap.

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          It might be easier, but its also lonlier, and more hostile.

          And, some things… some valuable things cannot be bought nor sold.

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    Out of a hundred possible good reasons to delete, it’ll probably be perceived as something you did wrong, because then people can gloat.

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    These posts that are aimed at one person but pretending to be about lemmy in general are sophomoric and dumb.

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      Are you talking about me? There’s no bad drama or negative backstory here. I made this just to show how overly anxious I am about being judged over basically nothing. I don’t believe Lemmy users will judge me like that in actuality. I can assure you nobody has ever harassed me over simply deleting a comment lol This was just made in good fun! I’m not on Lemmy enough to get involved in drama or even remember everyones usernames for the matter.

      If anything, Lemmy has been overly kind to me and I am lucky I haven’t had any terrible experiences. The only time I deleted a comment, I received a message from someone saying they understand the issue I was going through and was so kind! Lemmy is awesome :)