

Go back and read those three overwhelming sentences for your answer.


Go back and read those three overwhelming sentences for your answer.


Its like three sentences. And you can’t even read them, since my point is you’d just be talking in an older and worse way.


Not american. A friend of mine did all the stuff you mentioned, and more too. You keep being wrong.
You keep condescending because you can’t get it through your thick head that you are wrong and some education would do you good. One can tell you are of the type of chuddy Eastern European I talked about. Heritage does not create understanding, and you severely lack any understanding. Bernie simps for a genocidal ethnostate. Bernie believes in reforming capitalism. Bernie breaks up strikes. Even trots, as warped as their worldview is, usually have enough clarity of mind to understand that strikebreaking genocidal capitalists aren’t near any form of leftism.


“we” are not doing anything. That is not how language develops. These terms have developed through usage and necessity.
Saying “good vs bad” or “greed Vs empathy” is more confusing because it is worse at describing what actually goes on and the second you need to have any conversation that is actually deeper than a puddle you’re fucked. You need the tools to understand the world.
Insisting on this childlike idea of communication just ends up taking you several linguistic steps back. At some point you will need to specify “oh it’s political and material greed and empathy and actually these words signify these other things” and so on and so forth.


You’re just reinventing left vs. right with a worse framework. “There’s actually just good vs bad, it’s pretty simple”.
Terminology is necessary in order to discuss and understand the world, as well as educate others.


Whoops, didn’t mean to summon you. As always thank you for all you do 


Neat! I hang out with communist guerillas and a friend of mine carried out some sabotages when he was young and now he’s a union organizer. Also my dick is larger than yours. Also also you’re not my friend, fuck off with the condescension and, once again, educate yourself. Having family that has been politically involved does not mean you suddenly have an integral understanding of politics.
Considering the many Eastern European chuds I’ve met, it’s honestly more likely the opposite is the case.
Edit: I cannot imagine being proud of associating with trots lol. Does explain your lack of political understanding though.
And again by definition Left-wing is anti-capitalist. That is what left vs. right is about. By definition. You being the type to have grown up among some vocal idiots does make a lot of sense for your behaviour.


I wish there was a way to make people feel safe as they try to learn about different solutions.
The best advice I can give you is to educate yourself and then help others learn. Meet then were they are. The questions you have and the observations you’ve made aren’t novel, which is good, because it means there are others that’s have already done the hard work of finding and testing the answers.
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml Has a great reading list with a bunch of literature that would help you. It’s very approachable.


I mean… you are pressening a framework that is even simpler and more broad than left and rightwing politics, so I don’t know what to tell you there.


He is center right by the standards I have put forth, so definitionally not all standards.
Regarding your second point, I’d like to say it sounds like you haven’t had much interaction with leftists or left-wing political theory, considering your response.
Edit: And by the most basic standard of “pro-capitalism or anti-capitalist?” He is, by his own admission a social democrat, which is an ideology that believes in reforming capitalism. So by the most foundational definition of what forms the left- and right wings in modern politics, he is right wing. However I’d say he’s centre right, rather than a hard right.


You understand that it’s not subjective? “Leftwing” and “rightwing” are actual political and academic terminology with actual definitions. Stop talking out of your ass and educate yourself.


You keep describing left vs. right. Who is this “elite” you talk of, why do you think they are in the position they are in, how do they maintain that position, with what tools and for what reason? - Because they are capitalists or they enjoy the fruits of capitalism.
And you are also sowing division in that you are describing an ingroup and an outgroup, just like any other political terminology does.
Talking about politics only causes division because there is an inherent friction in “I would like to feed my kids” and “I think you should be an indentured servant”. The only way to avoid any division is to not talk about it altogether, which only furthers the aims of the “elite” i. e. The capitalists in charge.


Totalitarianism is a made up word by a CIA stooge (who was an actual anti-Semite, before the word lost all meaning) cooked up to draw parallels between the USSR and Nazi Germany so as to propagate red scare propaganda.
In Hannah Arendt analysis it does not matter for what purpose the tools of state power are utilised, merely that they are utilised. It does not matter if the state has broad support from the population, all that matters is that the state acts. This is an infantile worldview.
The word itself is without any meaning beyond “descriptor of enemy state”. Any definition is either so broad as to describe every nation-state or so narrow that it could just be replaced with the name of the state one is trying to foster fear of.


Depends on the country. The “conservatives” in the late USSR were the people opposing abolishing the union. I think the same descriptor is used for chavistas and Cuban communists.


I am a centrist!
Me 


This graph needs updating tbh. Bernie is not centerleft lol. And Obama and Hillary are far right as well. Tax cuts, dronebombings, imperialism and so on. The atrocities in Libya, the coup in Ukraine and all the other heinous shit. Don’t let pinkwashing fool you 
Them cutting ACORN or giving bailouts to banks in 2008… It’s incredible what good PR does to the perception of these monsters.


Bernie “both sides” Sanders is left-wing? Hardly. The guy is a sheepdog for grassroots movements that can disrupt the DNC and that’s basically it. Had he had a political career in a country with a welfare state then he’d be busy dismantling it. His foreign policy is right wing. His domestic barely clears.
It did though. If you want to speak with any kind of authority about communication, then you probably ought to be able to understand basic communication first.