

Why would I be pissed at Leninists? They’re my comrades.


Why would I be pissed at Leninists? They’re my comrades.


Ya because voting will change the United States lol.


https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/jacques-ellul-propaganda
Here is a book on propaganda, check it out.
Edit: Also its funny that you talk about nuance, when you initially just dismissed the report saying that the KGB and CIA only produce propaganda, you clearly don’t know much about intelligence agencies, meanwhile when you were presented a nuanced argument you simply replied with
I don’t care
A more nuanced take might of been, I don’t think the document its self is propaganda, however the person posting the document might be a propagandist. Anyways there is no reason not to believe that the leadership of the USSR weren’t making decisions collectively, even if you think that Soviet Union was an authoritarian state.


I do think its hilarious that you think that intelligence agencies just sit around producing internal propaganda. You would of probably thrown away the MKULTRA files or the Snowden leaks after all it came from the CIA and NSA it might just be propaganda. Edit: I also think its funny that you think the CIA and KGB.or any intelligence agencies files are bad sources they’re fucking good sources


I can tell. Edit Why even post your opinion if you don’t care.


I did, and I thought it was dumb.


Lol intelligence agencies internal documents aren’t part of the propaganda machine why would the CIA produce pro Stalin propaganda? OK maybe there was a double agent in the CIA that could be possible, but to say that they produce propaganda internally to show each other is a very weird thing to say. What’s the point of having an intelligence agency that classifies its documents if they’re just going to publish lies internally? You have the press to publish propaganda. I’m sorry your argument is just really bad. If you wanted to make a good argument you would go into the files and check what other agents were saying and cross reference them with this report, not just dismiss it because it came from the CIA. Most historians would give both their hands to have access to classified documents there is a reason why documents like this stay classified. I assume all this stuff was declassified after the Cold War
There is a cool video about Marx guess what it draws from classified documents that various police agencies in Europe had on Marx (some of them are still classified BTW) why the fuck would spies waste their time producing propaganda for other spies on their own side?


You do realise these are internal documents right? I’d say an intelligence agencies declassified documents are an amazing source. There is a good reason why the KGBs archives were closed again, or why the stasi tried to get rid of as many documents as they could after the wall fell. Are you saying the MKULTRA files were from a bad source?


When it comes to the governments they’re spying on, I’d say yeah it’s a decent source. Whether ALL agents who were spying on the USSR were saying this is a different matter.


🤦♂️ Obviously never been involved in any left wing activism, because oh boy oh boy you’d quickly realise just how authoritarian our liberal democracies are.
I know