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  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    Taiwan does claim to be the Republic of China, and to also own mainland China. Mainland China calls itself the People’s Republic of China, and claims to own Taiwan and various other places.

    • Skavau@piefed.social
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      Taiwan literally can’t safely officially repudiate the ‘one china’ policy from their end because of the possibility that China would see that as declaring independence and potentially regard that as justification for military intervention. No-one in Taiwan seriously believes that it is conceivable to retake the mainland, nor any other historically old ROC territories.

      • Hamartia@lemmy.world
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        Or, maybe, as they have long hoped, the US will put these children of a brutal aristocracy in ‘charge’ again.

          • Hamartia@lemmy.world
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            They would certainly struggle to do so but that doesn’t stop the ROC wishing it would.

            Their hopes probably made more geopolitical sense many decades ago.

            • Skavau@piefed.social
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              You got any actual evidence that people in Taiwan actually wish for this in any appreciable numbers?

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                Who, the indigenous Taiwanese, or the cancerous ancestors of brutal monarchists from the mainland?

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                  Sorry, are you calling all people of Han ancestry on Taiwan inherently “cancerous”?

                  And I am asking for evidence that a significant amount of people, the majority of citizens of Taiwan seriously desire and hope for the mass annexation of China.

                  • Hamartia@lemmy.world
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                    Do you mean the people of Han ancestry on the island of Taiwan that claim sovereignity over parts of India, Russia, Bhutan, Pakistan, Japan, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tajikistan; and all of Tibet, Mongolia and the People’s Republic of China.

                    Those people that imposed forty years of martial law on the population of the Island (commonly known as the White Terror) so as to commit Politicide, executing over three thousand, imprisoning over one hundred and forty thousand, not to mention killing between eighteen and twenty eight thousand to thwart a popular uprising. Those people that after two generations of crushing repression felt secure enough, in their possession over the Island’s levers of power and capacity to generate income, to allow elections.

                    Is it those people that you want me to speak to? Or are you trying to push this in some kind of ‘All Lives Matter’ direction?

    • I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world
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      Yes, general knowledge. I agree that Taiwan should invade the mainland and take what is theirs.

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        Personally I’d say no, the government of mainland China has it’s well known authoritarian tendencies, but it’s still much better than a warzone or area under foreign military occupation would be, in the hypothetical case where the Taiwanese government gained the military capacity for this somehow, and Taiwan and the mainland have had decades for cultural divergence to occur, some extremely transformative decades at that, so close as they might still be, it would still be a foreign invasion for china at this point.