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Yeah but she loved the genoside, that’s why we have to have utter incompetent apocalypse every goddamned day for three more years.
Purists couldn’t vote for the lesser of two evils. The choice was: vote for
genocideor vote forgenocide+even more horrible shit. Somehowgenocide+even more horrible shitseemed more appealing.Please be satire
Little too real for ya eh?
Just bafflingly ignorant and lowkey evil
Cool. Thanks for letting me know you voted third party or not at all
Yeah I voted PSL instead of voting for fascism or fascism-lite
Yeah I voted PSL
God. So fucking stupid. Such an embarrassing thing to admit.
FACT: The 3rd party candidate with the most votes in 2024 (not the PSL candidate) only received a HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. Meaning no 3rd party candidate even stood the remotest chance of winning the presidency.
So, how absolutely mindlessly stupid does one have to be to vote for a candidate that CANNOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES win? Especially when we’re in a situation where a felon rapist insurrectionist who is openly threatening American democracy is one of the candidates likely to actually win?
Describe to me what happened in your life that led you to being this unbelievably dense.
You want to vote 3rd party cuz you’re big mad about the two party system? Great. Do something intelligent and vote for local/state 3rd party candidates so a 3rd party can get more than ZERO members in Congress so they can start building a movement toward getting a candidate elected president. You’re not gonna have a good time though because currently no 3rd party is doing the work necessary to build that kind of movement.
Jesus, it’s almost beyond belief that people like you actually exist. Absolutely no critical thinking capability at all.
and also still have the same genocide happening, plus even more acts of war to boot
I’d argue a worse genocide.
Dems were stuck on “but but Israel is an ally” and tried to gently suggest that they stop. But Biden did take some action. The US even built a port to send in aid. Now obviously we had the power to stop sending Israel money and supporting them. That’s where they failed.
Trump however just said good work and keep it up. He’s encouraged Israel to go faster and joked about how great the strip will be once it’s freely developed real estate.
So yeah, one of these is clearly a worse option
But Biden did take some action.
Yes, he took the action of sending them even more weapons than what congress had appropriated.
The US even built a port to send in aid.
They built a port and when Israel told them the exact same thing they told everyone else, that they wouldn’t allow aid, they closed the port, accomplishing nothing in a way that was extremely predicable. It never had any purpose other than scoring political points. They got month of pretending it was going to do something out of it, and people like you are still citing it.
Yes, he took the action of sending them even more weapons than what congress had appropriated.
Thank goodness Trump stopped that, oh wait
Also you ever notice that people barely talk about the genocide anymore?
We know there’s no way to change Trump’s opinion on Palestine, and now we are fully focused on stopping him from starting new wars or sending ICE around the country to murder dissenters. Those that cared now have to focus on pressing domestic issues. If Kamala was president we’d still be focused on ending the genocide and there was at least a chance there would have been an end or progress, but now the current trajectory is the genocide will not be stopped and we’ll probably not have elections again
There was no way of “changing Kamala’s mind.” If there was, it would have been through exerting pressure before the election. Once she knew that pro-Palestine people would fall in line even when she was 100% pro-Israel, she would have absolutely no reason to change positions, if anything, she’d be more likely to become more pro-Israel, because the pro-Israel voters would be more likely to be swing voters. This is why the ideology of “lesser-evilism” is fundamentally incorrect, and how it led to politics shifting further and further right to the point we’re at now.
Please explain exactly what mechanism do you think could’ve been employed to change her mind. Protests? There were widespread campus protests during the election season, and she still didn’t respond to them at all.
And why would she? The left has a proven track record of falling in line behind the lesser evil, no matter how much bluster there might be. Based on that assumption, the politically smart move (if all you care about is winning elections) is to completely ignore all of the left’s demands and keep moving further and further right forever. Now, we have something to show that our words are not meaningless, hollow threats. If there is any possibility of stopping the rightward shift through electoralism, this is it.
we’ll probably not have elections again
Obviously we will. Not that it will matter, because the two party system is completely fucked and y’all refuse to do anything about it.
Obviously we will
Damn you people are dense. It’s not like the sitting president has been talking about canceling elections…oh wait
All you voting objectors did was lead to more dead minorities. The people Trump’s new Reich is targeting. We have a fascist military in our streets killing people and all you can do is still whine about how Kamala was flawed.
Obviously, you can’t be reasoned with, so I won’t bother. Just know that I’m just as committed to my approach as ever.
When the next election happens (after you wipe the egg off your face) I suggest you take into account that people like me exist, and that we’re not bluffing, and we’re not going to “come to our senses,” and you should factor that into your evaluation of which candidates are actually electable.
one of these is clearly a worse option
Following USA politics as an outsider, this has baffled me greatly the past year and more. Is harm reduction really such a difficult concept? It’s like that damn bus scenario, just with only bad options.
Something like: There’s five people on the bus, and the brakes stop working, so they vote for what they should do. Two say they should drive off a cliff, and one says they should just swerve and crash into the nearby ditch. Two people don’t vote because they want neither. The bus drives off the cliff and everyone dies
The thing that a lot of people seem to be having trouble grasping is that when voters tell you what they want, and you tell those voters to fuck off, some of those voters won’t vote for you. This is the simple reality of politics, it’s how it has always worked, it’s how it will always work. This is true everywhere, not just the US.
It is not the job of voters to elect democrats, it’s the job of the democrats to win votes. They fucked up and they are to blame more than anyone who sat out the election or voted for a 3rd party.
But the bus is still headed off the cliff
Right, and my point is that the bus is still headed off the cliff because of the failure of democrats.
Look, let’s rewind a little bit. Your analogy is about the 2024 election. You say the democrats are saying they want to crash it into a ditch, and if that the democrats don’t get charge of the bus, the bus is headed off the cliff. But, at the time of the 2024 election, who was currently in charge of the bus? Who had been in charge of the bus for the past 4 years?
But the bus is still headed off the cliff
Kamala: “If you don’t vote for me, Trump will send in the military.”
Also Kamala: “I will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.”
In his 2022 National Defense Strategy, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin laid out five key traits of America’s “future force.” The first among them: “Lethal.”
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In 2017, then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said his “Modernization Priorities for the United States Army” had “one simple focus: make Soldiers and units more lethal.”
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In discussing the 2024 Pentagon budget request, Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen H. Hicks said the funding would deliver “combat-credible joint forces that are the most lethal, resilient, survivable, agile and responsive in the world.”
Well… y’all got what you voted for, I guess.
Funding the military to fight outside the US is literally the same thing as using the military to round of civilians!
Great contribution to the discussion.
…yes, actually, it is.
Are the lives of Americans inherently more valuable than the lives of civilians in other countries?
As an American…yes.
That’s why I care more about what happens here than what happens in Gaza.
That’s why what was going on in Gaza during our 2024 elections didn’t play a big role in my decision making. Because we have our own very serious problems to deal with. And, coincidentally, making the right decision, which we didn’t, would have been better for the people in Gaza.
That’s the truth. Not saying I like it.
As an American…yes.
Least fascist .world user.
The imperial boomerang is the concept that repressive techniques to control colonial territories by governments will eventually deploy those same techniques domestically against their own citizens. This concept originates with Aimé Césaire in his 1950 work Discourse on Colonialism, where it is called the terrific boomerang to explain the origins of European fascism in the first half of the 20th century. Hannah Arendt agreed with this usage, calling it the boomerang effect in The Origins of Totalitarianism (1951).
