I think a big problem is that video games are too afraid to be video games. They’re so embarrassed by the medium that they’re working in that they strive to make interactive movies instead.
The gaming industry turned its back on gamers a long time ago by making it difficult to truly own a game. It’s no wonder people want to go back and play old games that don’t rely on a server somewhere that could be shutdown at any point.
You know, maybe if you could buy physical disks and cards of games that dont require internet access (unless it has specific online features like trade, battles, co-op, etc) And the games were actually good and not corporate slop then maybe we’d want them
I out an origonal halo 2 disc into a brand new xbox a couple of years ago. It refused to read it. My switch wants me to pay a subscription to play SNES games. As it turns out everything after the 3ds and the 360 was a mistake.
That sucks, I can still play original disks on my PS2 (excellent system btw)
from the title i thought this was going to be about AAA batteries
I started being done with modern games around the ps4 era. Things have not gotten better since then. I just bought a ps3 and it feels great to just put in a disk and boot up a game.
I admit there are some games that ask you to update them but it has not been madatory for me yet. I just got the system and am still exploring it. But, a ps3 super slim with 23 good games for about $100 is better than any AAA experience you will get for the same money.
I am not even going to pirate games since they are so cheap. The only exception will be in cases where there is not an option to get a disk.
I think you can still update ps3 games, I was forced to update the blue ray certificate (I think) recently. Also I think newer disks can contain patches
Maybe don’t make everything a micro transaction grindfest and actually make a good game. Outside of Nintendo which I play with my kids, I hardly fuck with new games. I’ve skipped the last gen of consoles because I can’t fucking stand modern gaming, and I honestly don’t think I’ve missed anything important. I know I’m painting with a broad brush, but for the most part I don’t think I’ve missed anything extraordinary. I’m sure I’ll get GTA 6 as long as my 2020 mid ass gaming laptop can support it, but I’ve grown very jaded about the gaming industry. It feels like games are designed by the C-suite and not gamers these days.
Games are games. Doesn’t matter when they were made. Especially, if they are better than modern ones.
Hey man, the SNES is pretty hard to top
Start making better games.
Even better.
Stop charging us again and again for the same shit just cause it’s on a newer system.
Stop blocking backwards compatibility just to charge us again.
Stop attacking rom sites because they have a file of a game you stopped supporting or selling 40 years ago.
Make better shit.
Stop nickel and diming us with “dlc” on your unfinished piece of trash.
Stop micro transactions.
Stop attacking your fucking customers and bleeding us dry.
Shareholders gotta eat I guess.
Those are fine ideas, but most people are really not even that picky.
Make it good, price it even halfway reasonable, people will buy it. Lots of games are selling well.
(Maybe stop spending half a billion on the budgets if you want to be profitable, instead of trying to squeeze more out of the players.)
Or put less of that half billion into ads and use it to improve the game development part
I’m still playing thru ps2’s massive library. No need for modern games here
People still read classic books, watch classic movies, go to see classical art and listen to classical music. Why would video games as an entertainment art form be any different?
People need to stop reading books from before 2000 and only read books with Kindle’s unlimited plan! Think of the shareholders!
line must go up
Greed can be like that. Stop being greedy and your fans may come back
Let them die. AAA games are games built to be marketed, not played.
Damn, I guess I’ll just delete GTA games, cyberpunk, Witcher, Skyrim and others because it was just marketing
Cool. Welcome to the world of options that exist outside of designed by committee, mass market, crowd pleaser, middle of the road, mechanically stagnant gaming.
It’s telling that your prime examples of AAA are games that choke on their own development but ultimately only offer bigness as their value. Big maps… big, mostly empty maps. Big crowds of NPCs… that do the same three idle animations, duck and cover like a choreographed team at a gun shot and then go back about their day 30 seconds later. Big, powerful engines… with big piles of bugs that take a year of dev time after release to fix. Big texture files… that you probably don’t notice because you’re playing on less than top of the line hardware or just ignore if you aren’t. Big ‘storylines’… that ultimately end up being ‘choose path A or B and then shoot/stab a giant pile of mostly similar enemies,’ and 95% of your game time is the distraction of sidequests you wander into with no effect on the main story. Big collections of voice acted lines… saying generic things and repeating them so often they hit you like an arrow to the knee. Big teams… that get so big they have to have meetings about their meetings with the meetings team before scheduling a meeting with someone from art, marketing, sound, code, and three other people to decide whether its reasonable to have a meeting about adding a hair to the dog in side quest 37.
So, yeah, welcome to the part if gaming where you experience the small, but meaningful. ‘To the Moon’ is never going to have an impressive trailer, but it might make you weep, if you have the heart for it. Disco Elysium doesn’t have square lightyears of map to wander, but its creators paid attention to everything you can see. Pacific Drive was made by a team of less than a dozen people, but was put together with incredible skill and artistry. Bullets Per Minute took an idea many have had and made it real, and even did a great job of it. Quality over quantity, every time.
I honestly don’t understand your point. Just because the games are larger, they’re worse? The things you describe are commonly not even in many indie games (Ie. Animations).
So your logic is that if the product is not 11/10, it’s shit? I’m sorry that you’ve had such a terrible experience, but personally some of the best games I’ve ever played in my life were AAA games and I’m glad companies made/make them, and I’m still looking forward to games like TESV6 or new Fallout.
Also, your “quality over quantity” at the end is so out of touch due to everyone complaining about how long it takes nowadays to make AAA games. New entries used to be made in a year or two-three, now we’re entering “wait a decade or two till we make the second game”. To me it appears you argue from emotions, something about this industry makes you mad, and you’re lashing out at the product itself.
There are many genuine thingst to be angry about, but generally saying AAA games suck? Yeah, no, on Reddit I’d say “redditors being out of touch with the world again”
Don’t misrepresent me and then pretend to have defeated my positions by defeating your own misrepresentations.
I didn’t say they suck. I said they are designed by committee, mass market, crowd pleaser, middle of the road, and mechanically stagnant. They are the corn of gaming. They aren’t poison, or shit, but they are decidedly mediocre in their makeup, and there are so many options that are better on one metric or another, basically any metric other than scale, if the players weren’t locked in or tricked in, the AAAs aren’t going to get the kind of support they have. Saying ‘some of my happiest memories are eating my way through a big trough of corn,’ isn’t a demonstration that corn is better, or even good, but that you, specifically, anecdotally, really like your corn.
And yes, there is something about them that bugs me on a deeper level, specifically their manipulative place in the industry/culture, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong to call them mediocre. Are all opinions invalidated by emotional entanglement? Then why should we trust your word as an avowed supporter of AAA game companies? You have an emotional reason to support them. Why should anyone listen to you about them if your views are emotionally tainted and your own standard requires detached judgement?
It’s only retro if it’s a modern thing made to look old, otherwise it’s vintage.
