• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    Paid for by the US taxpayers who keep giving Elmo more money to not do projects, but do this shit instead

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    Hey so question, how come we have to push so hard for a child porn machine to be called a child porn machine?

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    Why does it say that Grok is doing this? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that real people are using Grok as a tool to create this shit? Like place the blame where it belongs.

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      This is what I want to know. It doesn’t do anything unless someone tells it to. Why aren’t the people telling it to make child porn being held accountable? My 3D printer can make guns, but they won’t send the printer to jail if I decide to tell it to make one.

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      “Twitter users use child porn machine to make millions of images of child porn.” Would be accurate imho. Legally though AI generated works are owned by no one because the machine made it but cant own it.

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      The blame kinda rests with the creators of the tool as well as the “content” creators, no? And isn’t it more important to inform people about what a service is allowing than pointing out what specific users are doing? This is ultimately a reflection of X as well as X users.

      btw if you or anyone still uses X, it’s fair to assume you’re a pedo and or a nazi.

      X is for nazi pedos

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    I LOVE how we’re giving this CHILD PORN CREATION TOOL BILLIONS of US Tax Payer Dollars while ALSO Spending US Tax Payer Dollars on PROTECTING JEFFREY EPSTEIN and ALSO Spending US Tax Payer Dollars on ARMED MEN KIDNAPPING CHILDREN TO PLACES WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE!

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    Limited liability companies are “limited” in the sense that there are limitations on the responsibilities of the members of the corporation. The CEO can’t be held personally liable for the actions of the company, for example; their underlings could have been responsible and kept the leader in the dark.

    However, there’s this interesting legal standard wherein it is possible to “pierce the corporate veil” and hold corporate leadership personally liable for illegal actions their company took, if you can show that by all reasonable standards they must or should have known about the illegal activity.

    Anyway Elon has been elbow-deep in the inner workings of Xitter for years now, by his own admission, right? Really getting in there to tinker and build new stuff, like Grok and its image generation tools. Seems like he knows an awful lot about how that works. An awful lot.

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      The CEO can’t be held personally liable for the actions of the company, for example; their underlings could have been responsible and kept the leader in the dark.

      The onus should be on the company to prove their employees kept the CEO in the dark, not the other way around.

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        The law is a funny creature. I own a business myself (just started, actually!) and it would suck to be brought up on charges I have no idea about but I’m being held personally liable for. I’m grateful for the LLC protection in that case. Of course, I’m also not planning on committing any crimes, nor having my business commit crimes, so it’s a minor worry. Really only important in the event the law gets weaponised against the people, say for example by a foreign asset in high office… 😬

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          So you like the benefit of being on top of the hierarchy without the responsibility.

          Congrats.

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            I’m editing my response, 'cause you know what? You don’t know anything about me, my business, or my ethics. You have no standing to judge my character, and based on the fact that you have anyway, I don’t care to know anything else about you or engage with you further.

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          The problem is that once the law has been weaponized against the people, the only laws that matter are the ones they are using to harm you.

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            Yes, that is indeed the fact I was downplaying as “minor”. I have an even bigger target on my back, and I’m a lot less mobile with all my assets tied up like this.

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      That is a tricky question. IT isn’t just does the CEO know, but should the CEO have known. If you make a machine that injures people the courts ask should you have expected that.

      The first time someone uses a lawnmower the cut a hedge the companies and gets hurt can say “we never expected someone to be that stupid” - but we now know people do such stupid things and so if you make a lawn mower and someone uses it to cut a hedge the courts will ask why you didn’t stop them - the response is then we can’t think of how to stop them but look at the warnings we put on.

      When Grok was first used to make porn X can get by with “we didn’t think of that”. However this is now known. They now need to do more to stop it. there are a number of options. Best is fix Grok so it can’t do that; they could also just collect enough information on users that when it happens the police can arrest the person who instructed grok. There are a number of other options, if the court accepts them depends on if the tool is otherwise useful and if whatever they do reduces the amount of porn (or whatever evil) that gets through - perfection isn’t needed but it needs to get close.

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    I don’t watch PBS News Hour but my parents do and I have to listen to it from time to time. They characterized this issue as one of Grok creating “explicit” AI images and artificially generating pictures of real women (not “girls”) in “bathing suits”. Not exactly an accurate characterization of CSAM.

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      It wasn’t just one salute. Fucker did it twice with gusto.

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      If people are still on his platform after this and the grok thing, they are stupid, evil, or both.

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        Or not very in tune with everything. I learned about all this couple months ago from shitty upbringing keeping me isolated for long time. Depends what kept people knowing about all this. There are some people I know that never heard of all this too because they just focus on living their life day by day

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            Yup but still we got this!! Lets keep doing, informing, and mobilizing more people where we can!! We the people have the power!!!

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        It’s astonishing how many organizations are still using it for their official communications when there are ready alternatives.

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          After Elon wrecked everything, not-logged in users can’t even see the recent tweets of an account. So those orgs are not only using a nazi-childporn platform, nobody can see their tweets

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              Yeah, but if local police wants to give information to the citizen, saying “that unofficial page that usually works, but might also be broken is a good way to access our content” is not great.

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          It’s just momentum, much harder to pivot once you’re entrenched with a bunch of other entrenched entities. Not a great excuse to support this Nazi diddler all the same.

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        Or they lost their password and the email associated with the account, and can’t log in to delete their account…

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          I’m just talking about the ones actively on it, I’m also in camp lost my login info and can’t be assed, that was line 10 years ago

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    See, though, there aren’t any consequences for illegal actions by the filthy rich. That’s why they’re better than the poors.

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      Have you seen who’s in charge of our government? They’re probably the ones making the prompts

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      Because the US seems to be supportive of it. They lashed out at governments who’ve said to resolve it or face site bans.