Cold shower? There are no bonus points for effort. Just take a shower if you can.
Extra levels of suffering suck and don’t add anything to the experience. Basic self care is a good start. Trying to prove something to a straw man in the mind is silly.
Probably got the idea from the manosphere. That being said, actually sticking to that particular habit is something to be proud of, and is completely harmless… when you are that low, anything you can be proud of is a win.
the manosphere
What about Seneca? Stoicism? What do they have to do with “the manosphere”?
Cold showers feel great.
You’re not wrong, but we’re talking about pond scum here. I doubt there was much Seneca involved
4chan is a bit of a manosphere hotspot. It’s why some people’s alarm bells are ringing about the nofap-part, too. If we assume that the post isn’t actually real (as is common on 4chan), it might even be straight-up manosphere-derived nofap propaganda.
There is some evidence that taking cold showers is materially beneficial. If you don’t have some underlying heart condition and can handle them, they’re not bad, and they’ll save on electricity/gas. The “nofap” thing is what concerns me, since that’s a very “manosphere” concept with no middle ground between healthy sexuality and a crippling masturbation addiction (IIRC the former sometimes comes with crazy, unsubstantiated benefits in the fiction of the manosphere).
Sexual shame is used to control people. It’s always a big red flag
Its only 5 days. Thats a fine amount to not fap. The reason its pushed it cause these porn addicted cunts are fapping like 5 times a day.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted so heavily. I agree that five days isn’t some brutal, or even abnormal, act of chastity. It’s moreso that “nofap” has connotations beyond just breaking an unhealthy masturbation addiction, and because everyone’s healthy status quo is different, keeping track of a specific number of days since you jorked your pork isn’t a great metric of how someone’s dealing with addiction. What’s a lot more important is how you’re approaching it; are you being mindful in the moment, or are you just doing it for a quick hit?
Recovering drug addicts will treat number of days since their last hit as a metric for success, but usually, e.g. with alcohol or nicotine, there isn’t a healthy upside to the object of their addiction like masturbation. “Nofap” basically does treat it like something strictly detrimental, and it stigmatizes something that’s normal, ironically probably coming with some mental health implications of its own (in a similar way that religious stigma against it often does).
That article doesn’t say “cold showers are good for you!” it says “well, they aren’t going to necessarily kill you, but watch out if you have these health conditions. I bet we can brainstorm some bullshit health benefits.”
I bet we can brainstorm some bullshit health benefits.
Dude, jesus christ. The Cleveland Clinic is a real, nonprofit medical institution. A professional writer consulted a (named, he’s right there) medical doctor for this. There’s compelling enough evidence elsewhere to support what this article is saying. Linked is a 2025 PLoS One systematic review and meta-analysis for cold-water immersion (CWI), including cold showers; more research is needed, but the authors at least make a conclusion in favor of CWIs, which says a lot for this type of paper.
Can you please get off your Dunning–Kruger high horse for five seconds and stop contributing to the science denialism that’s unraveling society? I take scalding hot showers; not everything has to be an attack you have to defend against.
Also:
That article doesn’t say “cold showers are good for you!”
Motherfucker, the section header after the introductory paragraph literally reads: “Why cold showers are good for you”. Was your problem that they missed the exclamation point or something?
i’m more familiar with the cleveland clinic than you are. this is literally a bullshit article.
Jesus shit you are worked up about this. Like, I have got to take some time and email these doctors and ask them why they wasted their lives creeping on people watching them shower. Why they are so perverted. They could have stayed home playing video games and the world would be exactly the same
i’m more familiar with the cleveland clinic than you are.
Good for you. It’s hard to tell how much I need to explain to establish a baseline understanding when you act like such an insufferable, provably wrong dipshit.
They need to insufferable, it’s the only thing they’ve got going for them. Without that they’re just a regular garden variety dipshit.
excuse me i’m only 80% garden variety dipshit. the other part fell off
Okay I’m sorry for making fun of your stupid peer review failing shower research and your graduating bottom of your class and your inability to write a good article and your fucking up at your trade pretty much constantly because of graduating at the bottom of your class, you know like all family medicine doctors.
I think you both need to cool it a bit
i’m sorry, did YOU write the bullshit article? it’s so stupid.
isn’t cold water better for the skin? at least it feels like it, when i do it once ever few years
Hot water damages the skin barrier. While cold water is better, lukewarm is fine for most people, especially since cold water won’t be able to rinse shampoo and other products out of your hair properly.
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/2/298
An ice plunge or rolling around in the snow both feel great afterwards. Really gets the endorphins going. The same applies to cold showers, although I usually do that only when I can get back into a 100°C sauna immediately after. That’s double the endorphin rush.
Yeah I enjoy how I feel after an ice shower or bath, but I hate doing it lol
You don’t want to do a job interview while being backed up with five days of semen you’ll come in your pants if the interviewer says something nice.
Interviewer: So, you have an impressive resume…
Interviewee: OH NO… TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION
UH OH SPAGHETTIOS
Speaking from experience
If you wear a chastity belt it makes a bullet ricochet noise
Twist: interviewer is Sharon Stone
Scream: interviewer is no Sharon Stone
its ok to fap
Considering the rest of their lifestyle, there’s very little chance that they were masturbating a sensible amount. A period of abstinence is a great way to normalize their masturbation habits.
You can do it too much. Had an ex fuck up his nerve endings with deathgrip bad enough he couldn’t get off in me. Nobody’s had trouble before or after so.
¯ \_(ツ)_/¯
but the solution is just do it less and grip less hard.
I also find that while we haven’t got to needing to schedule sex yet, hubs and I do have to coordinate when we masturbate to get the best odds of mutual orgasm. His sweet spot seems to be 24-36h. Mine is technically as long as possible but if I try to wait more than a week I start having really surreal wet dreams about lizard people and people I haven’t met in over a decade and it resets my refractory period to sometime next millennia.
That’s like saying it’s okay to eat to people who overeat on the daily
But nobody suggests you go as long as you can without eating
how what
I feel gross when I skip a shower for a day - I can’t comprehend how I’d feel after a month.
I feel gross if I don’t brush right after coffee. Can’t imagine a month.
Coffee is acidic. If you’re brushing right after coffee, you may be damaging the enamel of your teeth (acid + scrubbing is not a good combination). And it can’t grow back; once you’ve lost it, it’s gone forever.
Omg, I hate the internet. It wasn’t literal, dude.
Excuse me but I think the word you wanted to use there is figurative. Literal doesn’t mean literal anymore.
:P
What must his teeth look like? And his breath smell like? Ugh.
Old orange Tic-Tac stumps.
Itchy. Very itchy.
And sticky. If I go a few days I can feel my skin sticking more to my clothes.
Every body is different, but generally for most people every 2-3 days tends to be the sweet spot for a full shower with shampoo, conditioner, etc.
Personally, I have greasy hair problems, and I ultimately found that showering less frequently made the biggest improvement of all of the changes I made. I’ll generally shower every 2-3 days, and if I do something that makes me sweaty I’ll hop in the shower and rinse off without using any product between those every other day showers
On the other hand, for OOP, they’re making some big changes and probably need the consistency of every day to help maintain the habit they’re building
I’m an old guy and have been showering daily since I was young. I feel itchy when I go 48 hours without showering. Never had any significant skin issues.
But there’s a pretty big difference between every three days and every month.
some people are so depressed that they kill themselves, being stinky is small potatoes
For sure - I’m glad the guy in the OP seems to be getting to a better place. His prior state sounds pretty horrific.
Your body gets used to it.
Showering every day is also bad for your skin.
I’m not the best guide for how often to shower, but every dermatologist-written guide I’ve read does indicate that a daily shower is unnecessary for most people and will (for most people) dry your skin. It can also damage your hair. This is true even in the absence of soap/detergent/shampoo.
That said, if you do anything that causes you to sweat, I think it’s prudent to do a quick rinse because you always smell worse to other people than you do to yourself due to olfactory saturation.
>job interview is cut short
>they don’t call me back
>fallback to cave routineStill using 4chan so there’s definite room for improvement.
It will hit hard once he wakes up
manifesting this for myself
Proud of you my son/daughter/offspring.
This sounds like some redpilled conservative Jordan Peterson bullshit
Possibly but it also sounds like there making some legit improvements. Maybe reserve judgment until they actually say something problematic.
