• thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Unsubscribing and installing UBlock Origin is perfectly thinkable. It also gets which side is the “dark side” wrong.

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      It’s even worse than that. They increase the price right after they increase the ad length. As in “well, now that ads are longer, this subscription has more value. Therefore we should increase the price”.

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        3 days ago

        There isn’t a single device in my home that shows YouTube ads.

        I’ll jump through any hoop before I give that shit website money.

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              I don’t think that soviety is shit. I think we have done wonderful things in society. And we keep making it better. Every society has its problems, but there is a way to make them better.

              Without society there wouldn’t be literature, medicine, knowlidge, science, etc.

              Yes, there are bad things also, but as I said, we can and must make them better. And if you watch in the long run through history there is no better time to be living than now.

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            3 days ago

            Yup.

            I think capitalism is shit but I’m still forced to participate in it. Until there is something better to use I’m stuck with YouTube.

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              Nobody is forcing you to consume content on the internet, this is a laughable defense. You aren’t forced by society or capitalism to watch YouTube.

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                You’re absolutely right.

                However, if I can consume said content without giving money to companies who are going over and above to be anti-consumer? I’ll 100% take advantage of that.

                If YouTube wants to go out of their way to make it harder for me to watch legally, I’ll go out of my way to watch illegally. You think I pay for 17 different streaming services for TV shows me or my partner want to watch? Fuck all that we pay for IPTV.

                Pirates like me don’t want to have to jump hoops to watch your shit. But all these streaming platforms, Youtube, Twitch, the greed has become so hard to ignore that it’s impossible to rationalize paying them to fuck you anyway. Pay $18 a month for this service to watch this show, but this other show is on another service for another $16 a month. Fuck all that I’ll just open up whichever pirating site I have saved and download the fucking show in a half hour and toss it on my external HDD and watch it anyway.

                I have no respect for companies that don’t respect their consumers.

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                  I can respect the honesty that you just want shit for free at least lol

                  I can’t stand people that try to pretend that they’re taking a moral stand when they just don’t want to pay people for the work they consume.

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                Okay. Let me know when the dozens of content creators I follow on YouTube migrate there.

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                  “Content creators” lol. I mean, I guess there could be, but YT stopped being decent about 10 years ago, maybe longer. I haven’t used it but for an occasional video. Surprisingly, I haven’t missed it. There’s not much on YouTube I couldn’t get elsewhere, with less ads, and to the point vs a 10 minute video intro plus sponsor plugs, etc.

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            And when they try to force online ID bullshit I’ll permanently walk away. We don’t deserve the WWW if its just full of scammers. I’d rather rewatch my favorite anime for the millionth time.

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    I’d gladly pay them about $10 a month for a family plan.

    At that point, maintaining AdBlocker updates on half a dozen different platforms would be more pain than the money.

    But let’s be honest, they’re not putting out Netflix and Disney quality content, it’s just 5-9’s of slop with an occasional diamond of a creator.

    at $27 a month, and a trajectory over time to be more expensive than cable, they can fuck right off.

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      They think delay before every video and “'experiencing interruptions? Find out why” banners are going to make me turn off my ubo. Good luck with that.

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      I only see ads when I go to a friends house and they have that on the tv app blasting 1min ads every 5minutes.

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          They don’t care. I’ve tried with Vanced, blockers, DNS, everything. They’d rather just watch the ads. Blows my balls off.

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            Drives my crazy, and apparently throwing whatever i have in my hand; at a friend/relatives tv is not acceptable. Honestly and ad appears and it my instant reaction is to shut it the F up, and then usually to glare at whoever owns it like they are an idiot. I love hearing them explain why they pay tolerate it.

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            Friends with benefits, just not necessarily the good kind.

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          Is that different from smart tube for the phone, 'cause that app looks weird.

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            3 days ago

            Should be this one SmartTube. Its a different client, so it doesn’t look like the regular YouTube app, bug you can login and have your feed. It includes adblock and sponsorblock.

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        I would recommend firefox + ublock origin also for phone. Install firefox, and though the menu add the extensions “video background play fix” and “ublock origin”.

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    Honestly I would probably pay for it and be happy but Premium doesn’t solve many of the problems that still exist:

    • being shown the same content over and over
    • Dislikes hidden
    • in-video ads
    • Shorts absolutely crammed down your throat everywhere
    • broken search results
    • AI-generated slop absolutely everywhere
    • crypto spam
    • Google-connected account using view history to spy on you

    etc. etc. All problems Google could solve easily but simply won’t.

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      They finally lost me completely when I loaded a music video marked “adult” for language and it demanded I upload ID on an account that was legally an adult.

      I made that account in 1999, it’s not even from this millennium, and they still derp out on it. I’m getting close to 50, at this point, and the only thing ads, age verification, and extreme right wing content on top of state sponsored disinformation campaigns will get you is a blacklist.

      We should have seen it coming, I mean they used to have the “Don’t be evil” motto, removing that was a declaration of intent.

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        I pay for YouTube and they wouldn’t accept the card I pay them with for validation.

        So I took a photo of someone in a YouTube video and they accepted it as me and hey now I’m verified.

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          Cards are their own issue…

          I had a bank that would always deny my purchase of a game with fraud detection, though I suspect it was because GOG was still banking in Gibraltar then, but then my card was actually stolen and they just let them spend $5 at every store in town until I was overdrawn by the maximum they allowed.

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        Considering YT didn’t even start until 2005, I call BS 😁. Not to mention I don’t think they would’ve had accounts from the get go unless you wanted to upload videos.

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            Gmail didn’t exist until 2004 or so. Google back then was a search engine in 1998 so there’d be no need for an "account"in the sense it’s used today. I mean, they’re probably not wrong claiming they have a Google account old enough to be legal since it’d only need to be from 2008 to be 18, and there was Gmail, YouTube, and Android (later on) by then.

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              Definitely an adult account, I have kids who are adults, and I had been on Google since I used to use it at the public library. I seem to remember there being a different version of mail from them, before GMail, that was converted when they did the big release. I could be wrong, it’s been nearly thirty years, but I was very relieved to be able to get off Yahoo which only released one good product (Answers, by the way) in the history of ever.

              I also started with Android using my account long enough ago to be “adult” as I was using a HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1) running Android 1.0 released in 2008, moving from my brief foray into Blackberry from Palm to them and staying through the Galaxy Note 8. Now I use WayDroid to run a few Android apps, Google has just gotten too creepy, and they do derpy things like make me need to fiddle with workarounds to access my files on my device and now they’re pushing the signing for Android trying to kill (or at least data harvest) alternative stores.

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      I have like 8 or 9 plugins for Firefox and just to make YouTube remotely usable. That doesn’t account for the 8 or 9 more on top of that to make the internet remote usable.

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      Get Revanced and you can also block shorts from the UI completely, on top of no ads

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      Soooo true. What service are you even paying for, they change their business focus and now you get shorts. The best way to viee youtube is with an ad free frontend.

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      You can get rid of the actually relevant issues with premium and giving negative reactions to unwanted content. I barely get shown AI stuff.

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    For me the unthinkable is giving my hard earned money to a multi billion dollar corporation

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      Because its a covering instead of saying underhanded or sneaky or tricking users.

      “I didn’t steal, I was just quietly sneaking money from their wallet!”

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        I’m speaking more of the reporting. It seems like every headline claims something is being done “quietly” now when it was actually announced loud and clear. Take this price hike, for example. I got an email from Google last week telling me the price went up. That wasn’t “quietly”. “Quietly” would be raising the price completely unannounced and hoping no one notices.

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    THE UNTHINKABLE! Not paying for trumping trumpy service or goods. We should pay for things no matter how bad they are of course.